I think David you have not understood at all what I said. Please explain your objection in a manner highlighting what you think I said, and why you would object to what I said.
Will
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A reference that requires payment is still a reference and there is no reason to remove it. Almost always, these paid sources are subscribed to by libraries to which many hundreds of people here have access, and can be accessed at least by those members of that institution, and often by public visitors to it. Further, the articles will be read by thousands of people who do have access, as well as by those who do not. it is no more a problem that those books available in only a few dozen libraries.
The only paid references that should be removed are those which merely duplicate exactly what is available from other sources. For example, if a story is reprinted in many newspapers, we should try to find one which is free.
David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
I think David you have not understood at all what I said. Please explain your objection in a manner highlighting what you think I said, and why you would object to what I said.
Will
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On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 2:49 AM, David Goodmandgoodmanny@gmail.com wrote:
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The only paid references that should be removed are those which merely duplicate exactly what is available from other sources. For example, if a story is reprinted in many newspapers, we should try to find one which is free.
I think what Will was saying is that if there is a print version in real-life that people can access at a library, then that can be used instead of the online version that people have to pay for, so using the online link is OK. But when the *only* version anywhere is the online one, as that is one that people have to pay for, then Will objects to that. I don't entirely agree with that, but I think that is what he was saying.
Will, if I'm getting this wrong, it might mean you need to try again and explain what you were saying.
Carcharoth
I agree completely with David, and if David is misunderstaning, please explain. Your comment in an earlier email that "Most people seem to fail to understand to what I refer." certainly applies to me, as I have no idea what you're talking about. I also cannot see why you're being coy rather than blunt - *you* certainly know what you're talking about, so please tell us.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Goodman" dgoodmanny@gmail.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Online Newspapers Considering Subscription Model
A reference that requires payment is still a reference and there is no reason to remove it. Almost always, these paid sources are subscribed to by libraries to which many hundreds of people here have access, and can be accessed at least by those members of that institution, and often by public visitors to it. Further, the articles will be read by thousands of people who do have access, as well as by those who do not. it is no more a problem that those books available in only a few dozen libraries.
The only paid references that should be removed are those which merely duplicate exactly what is available from other sources. For example, if a story is reprinted in many newspapers, we should try to find one which is free.
David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
I think David you have not understood at all what I said. Please explain your objection in a manner highlighting what you think I said, and why you would object to what I said.
Will