This isn't some obscure corner of the 'pedia, folks, like [[Iridology]] or [[Instructional capital]].
This is about the article on one of the largest minor political parties in U.S. politics, on the 300th largest web site in the world.
Ec wrote-
Your POV is showing. The second part is true in itself, but the comparison with two other ideas merits mentioning. Controversial as it may be , iridology does have a certain following. Many of these might place the Libertarian Party in an obscure corner. It is a matter of pure speculation for the followers of the one to say that the followers of the other are in an obscure corner.
Instructional capital is probably less well known, but that is probably only because econo-social theories in general attract less attention.
My ignorance is showing, perhaps, but not my POV; I have never been much of a supporter of the Libertarian party or of third-party movements in general. I chose the other articles as examples that have been the targets of POV warriors. Wikipedia lacks hit counters so we have no objective way of knowing which of these articles is the most frequently visited, though I still suspect that the Libertarian page has had more views, particularly with the election and its aftermath stimulating interest in U.S. politics.
In any case, my point remains: that with Wikipedia's continuing surge in popularity, we have an obligation of service to our readers. And POV warriors are making trouble on articles that, IMO, are now widely read.
Two years ago it didn't make much difference if *any* article was protected for a week on [[m:The wrong version]]. Now it does, at least in some cases.
UninvitedCompany
uninvited@nerstrand.net wrote:
In any case, my point remains: that with Wikipedia's continuing surge in popularity, we have an obligation of service to our readers. And POV warriors are making trouble on articles that, IMO, are now widely read.
In this same general area, I wanted to point out that one day my wife called me on my cell phone to let me know that she happened to go to the George Bush page only to find the infamous goatse.cx image there. (If you don't know what this is, don't try to find out if you are easily offended!)
I mention this in this context, because it also goes into the category of "we are getting very poppular, and we have an obligation of service to our readers".
I don't have an exact solution for the goatse.cx case, though I think the answer probably needs to be softer than "protect the article" when the subject is both popular and rapidly changing. I advocate the development of some sort of "delayed publish" mechanism whereby edits don't appear on the main url until some time has passed. This could be used on articles prone to heavy vandalism during peak times, to allow us to catch the vandalism and remove it before it is published. And the fact that it will not be published to the world at large, will reduce the incentive to vandalize, and therefore save us all a big headache.
--Jimbo
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 07:43:45 -0800, Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
I don't have an exact solution for the goatse.cx case, though I think the answer probably needs to be softer than "protect the article" when the subject is both popular and rapidly changing. I advocate the development of some sort of "delayed publish" mechanism whereby edits don't appear on the main url until some time has passed.
That sounds a damn good idea.
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 00:01:57 +0000, phil hunt zen19725@zen.co.uk wrote:
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004 07:43:45 -0800, Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
I don't have an exact solution for the goatse.cx case, though I think the answer probably needs to be softer than "protect the article" when the subject is both popular and rapidly changing. I advocate the development of some sort of "delayed publish" mechanism whereby edits don't appear on the main url until some time has passed.
That sounds a damn good idea.
-- "It's easier to find people online who openly support the KKK than people who openly support the RIAA" -- comment on Wikipedia (Email: zen19725 at zen dot co dot uk)
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I've only recently been catching up with some mailing list posts. Has anyone further investigated the delayed publish idea? To be honest, I had naively not even considered such a scenario as described, yet have been happily evangelising for Wikipedia to friends and family. I would be appalled to have someone I know come back to me and say, "Well, I visited that Wikipedia thing, and do you know what I found..."
As far as I'm concerned, I will certainly be curtailing my general describing of Wikipedia as a nice happy place with fluffy bunnies.
Zoney