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Michael Smith

25 Jan 2007 25 Jan '07

11:22 p.m.

Gee - ZakuSage abuses me, and what happens when I respond? Assterion blocks me for 2 weeks, and his ass buddy Yamla locks my user page? You are a real fucking laugh riot, Zakusage I guess really owns that PSP page huh. RunedChozo

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George Herbert

25 Jan 25 Jan

11:59 p.m.

On 1/25/07, Michael Smith <runechozo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Gee - ZakuSage abuses me, and what happens when I respond? Assterion blocks me for 2 weeks, and his ass buddy Yamla locks my user page? You are a real fucking laugh riot, Zakusage I guess really owns that PSP page huh. RunedChozo

Last night, I and others asked you both nicely to take a wikibreak and leave it alone. Neither of you did that. I'm going to go have some stern words with ZakuSage about wikistalking people, but you need to take responsibility for having chosen to continue engaging in a hostile, uncivil manner rather than back off and calm down. If you'd stopped last night this would be very different today. If you cannot control your temper enough to act in a reasonable and civil manner even when someone is provoking you, you're going to get yourself in trouble and thrown off Wikipedia sooner or later. People have told you this before. Please listen this time. -- -george william herbert george.herbert(a)gmail.com

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Michael Smith

26 Jan 26 Jan

12:21 a.m.

Liar. ZakuSage stalked me all day. Called me a dick and worse. Lied about me. Put attack pages in my user space. What did you admins do? NOTHING. I created a separate page to work on so I wouldn't have to deal with ZakuSage's page owning bullshit issues. I invited people to come there. I even invited ZAKUSAGE to come work on it and instead he just left insulting messages on it. What did I get? I got MORE stalking, MORE harassment from ZakuSage. He just kept doing it and doing it and doing it. You can look at the pages I've been on. When I made a mistake, I APOLOGIZED FOR IT AND FIXED IT. ZakuSage did nothing but keep harassing me, but who got attacked? Me. You don't care about your so-called "rules" or making it a better encyclopedia obviously. On 1/25/07, George Herbert <george.herbert(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 1/25/07, Michael Smith <runechozo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Gee - ZakuSage abuses me, and what happens when I respond? Assterion

blocks

me for 2 weeks, and his ass buddy Yamla locks my user page? You are a real fucking laugh riot, Zakusage I guess really owns that PSP page huh. RunedChozo

Last night, I and others asked you both nicely to take a wikibreak and leave it alone. Neither of you did that. I'm going to go have some stern words with ZakuSage about wikistalking people, but you need to take responsibility for having chosen to continue engaging in a hostile, uncivil manner rather than back off and calm down. If you'd stopped last night this would be very different today. If you cannot control your temper enough to act in a reasonable and civil manner even when someone is provoking you, you're going to get yourself in trouble and thrown off Wikipedia sooner or later. People have told you this before. Please listen this time. -- -george william herbert george.herbert(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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Parker Peters

12:40 a.m.

George, I find it funny that we have someone who's engaged in wikistalking who's not blocked, while the victim is blocked for two weeks. It seems they have good reason to complain. Parker On 1/25/07, George Herbert <george.herbert(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 1/25/07, Michael Smith <runechozo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Gee - ZakuSage abuses me, and what happens when I respond? Assterion

blocks

me for 2 weeks, and his ass buddy Yamla locks my user page? You are a real fucking laugh riot, Zakusage I guess really owns that PSP page huh. RunedChozo

Last night, I and others asked you both nicely to take a wikibreak and leave it alone. Neither of you did that. I'm going to go have some stern words with ZakuSage about wikistalking people, but you need to take responsibility for having chosen to continue engaging in a hostile, uncivil manner rather than back off and calm down. If you'd stopped last night this would be very different today. If you cannot control your temper enough to act in a reasonable and civil manner even when someone is provoking you, you're going to get yourself in trouble and thrown off Wikipedia sooner or later. People have told you this before. Please listen this time. -- -george william herbert george.herbert(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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Tariq Ab- Jo- Tu-

27 Jan 27 Jan

3:11 a.m.

New subject: Well gee, abusive admins, abusive editors, and you don't care about the rules at all.

Parker -- Are you pretending to be a different person again? The blunder in an e-mail earlier this month (http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-January/060314.html) pretty much established that you are 75.178.235.28 and a checkuser <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/RunedChozo> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/RunedCho…) indicated it was /likely /that 75.178.235.28 and RunedChozo are the same person. Add to that your vehement defense of RunedChozo last month and your sudden return now... hmm... something doesn't seem right. -- Tariq Ab- Jo- Tu- P.S. Would you please tell RunedChozo to quit calling me an Islamist? There are so many other insults with which he can throw at me and that one has /really /lost its meaning. Parker Peters wrote:

George, I find it funny that we have someone who's engaged in wikistalking who's not blocked, while the victim is blocked for two weeks. It seems they have good reason to complain. Parker On 1/25/07, George Herbert <george.herbert(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 1/25/07, Michael Smith <runechozo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Gee - ZakuSage abuses me, and what happens when I respond? Assterion

blocks

me for 2 weeks, and his ass buddy Yamla locks my user page? You are a real fucking laugh riot, Zakusage I guess really owns that PSP page huh. RunedChozo

Last night, I and others asked you both nicely to take a wikibreak and leave it alone. Neither of you did that. I'm going to go have some stern words with ZakuSage about wikistalking people, but you need to take responsibility for having chosen to continue engaging in a hostile, uncivil manner rather than back off and calm down. If you'd stopped last night this would be very different today. If you cannot control your temper enough to act in a reasonable and civil manner even when someone is provoking you, you're going to get yourself in trouble and thrown off Wikipedia sooner or later. People have told you this before. Please listen this time. -- -george william herbert george.herbert(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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Michael Smith

26 Jan 26 Jan

12:50 a.m.

Oh, I get it now. Assterion is lying now, I see his posts, he didn't pay any attention to the case, if he did he'd have seen that the AIV filing was wrong, I fixed my own mistake when I figured out what was going on AND I EVEN APOLOGIZED FOR IT ON THE PAGE. But you don't care about that. It's all about lying and beating people up and making yourselves feel big. I get it. Happy now? Fun to beat up on someone who can't fight back? Great. Fuck you too. On 1/25/07, George Herbert <george.herbert(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 1/25/07, Michael Smith <runechozo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Gee - ZakuSage abuses me, and what happens when I respond? Assterion

blocks

me for 2 weeks, and his ass buddy Yamla locks my user page? You are a real fucking laugh riot, Zakusage I guess really owns that PSP page huh. RunedChozo

Last night, I and others asked you both nicely to take a wikibreak and leave it alone. Neither of you did that. I'm going to go have some stern words with ZakuSage about wikistalking people, but you need to take responsibility for having chosen to continue engaging in a hostile, uncivil manner rather than back off and calm down. If you'd stopped last night this would be very different today. If you cannot control your temper enough to act in a reasonable and civil manner even when someone is provoking you, you're going to get yourself in trouble and thrown off Wikipedia sooner or later. People have told you this before. Please listen this time. -- -george william herbert george.herbert(a)gmail.com _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

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PeruvianLlama

7:33 p.m.

New subject: Well gee, abusive admins, abusive editors, and you don't care about the rules at all.

Michael Smith wrote: <snippity>

Happy now? Fun to beat up on someone who can't fight back? Great. Fuck you too.

If the point of writing to this list was to bring the situation to the attention of a wider audience, then you're sabotaging your own attempt when you tell us to collectively fuck off. I'm not familiar with the goings-on you mention, but I think George's comment earlier about taking a short break to calm down would do a world of good. There are lots of people around here who are willing to help. I don't know of any who feel inspired to do so after being insulted by a stranger. - PeruvianLlama

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Mark Ryan

27 Jan 27 Jan

2:09 a.m.

As the lucky person who got to moderate Runechozo, I got called an "abusive asshole" and also got a special "f*ck you", just for me. It's my personal opinion that when people descend to such juvenile name-calling when they don't entirely get their own way, they're probably not the best people for Wikipedia anyway. After that incident, I have absolutely no interest in investigating this person's complaints any further. But could someone else look into it, just so we can't give them the satisfaction of being able to say we've ignored their request for help? ~Mark Ryan

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Marc Riddell

2:37 a.m.

New subject: Well gee, abusive admins, abusive editors, and you don't care about the rules at all.

on 1/26/07 8:09 PM, Mark Ryan at ultrablue(a)gmail.com wrote:

After that incident, I have absolutely no interest in investigating this person's complaints any further. But could someone else look into it, just so we can't give them the satisfaction of being able to say we've ignored their request for help?

Would that person need to be an admin? Marc Riddell

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Mark Ryan

3:04 a.m.

On 27/01/07, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net> wrote:

Would that person need to be an admin? Marc Riddell

No, of course not. :) ~Mark Ryan

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