Rick K wrote:
OK, now what? Is he going to get to continue to mess up article after article and call people names forever because nobody wants to do anything about him?
Is would seem so. For the time being at least.
Note though that most of his edits or now to talk pages rather than article pages, this is because his constant vandalism has got his favourite pages protected. So no real harm is being done to Wikipedia's content. OTOH a great deal of harm is being done to Wikipedia's community. What will newbies think if they come across him? If we allow him to continue to insult us, delete our work, insert POV rants all over the place, and refuse to work with anyone (and I do mean anyone!) then we are condoning his behaviour.
Let's face facts. Anyone who has had any dealings with Mr NH knows that we are going to have to ban him sooner or later. I don't mean to be so pessimistic, but he has shown no willingness to cooperate. What do we need to do to get the arbitration process sorted out quickly?
In the meantime, I have decided to try and stay away from his rants on talk pages. If he starts editing articles again I will intervene to keep them as NPOV as I can make them, but let him say what he likes on talk pages. I have better things to do with my time than to pander to his attention seeking.
Theresa
The members of the mediation and arbitration committees need to get on the stick. You can keep the pressure on...
Fred
From: "KNOTT, T" TKNOTT@qcl.org.uk Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:49:50 -0000 To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: RE: [WikiEN-l] MNH, again
What do we need to do to get the arbitration process sorted out quickly?
I just had this idea (not necessarily related to MNH): As a "warning shot" from one of out countless committees, a "problematic" user could be limited to a fixed number of edits per day. That way, he can * either waste these edits on stuff that gets reverted anyway, * or use them more wisely, * or leave if he doesn't think he can limit himself to "decent" edits
As example, I'd say 10 edits per day, for one week. Just to have some figures.
Circumventing these measures by creating an alternate user name or going anon will result in immediate banning.
Magnus (who thinks a little discipline won't harm the project;-)
Fred Bauder wrote:
The members of the mediation and arbitration committees need to get on the stick. You can keep the pressure on...
Fred
From: "KNOTT, T" TKNOTT@qcl.org.uk Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:49:50 -0000 To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: RE: [WikiEN-l] MNH, again
What do we need to do to get the arbitration process sorted out quickly?
WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
This is one thing the arbitration committee could do, likewise banning can be for a day, a week, a month, a year, life.
Fred
From: Magnus Manske magnus.manske@web.de Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:50:11 +0100 To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] MNH, again
I just had this idea (not necessarily related to MNH): As a "warning shot" from one of out countless committees, a "problematic" user could be limited to a fixed number of edits per day. That way, he can
- either waste these edits on stuff that gets reverted anyway,
- or use them more wisely,
- or leave if he doesn't think he can limit himself to "decent" edits
As example, I'd say 10 edits per day, for one week. Just to have some figures.
Circumventing these measures by creating an alternate user name or going anon will result in immediate banning.
Magnus (who thinks a little discipline won't harm the project;-)
Fred Bauder wrote:
The members of the mediation and arbitration committees need to get on the stick. You can keep the pressure on...
Fred
From: "KNOTT, T" TKNOTT@qcl.org.uk Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:49:50 -0000 To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: RE: [WikiEN-l] MNH, again
What do we need to do to get the arbitration process sorted out quickly?
WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l