There's nothing wrong in my opinon with this. However, I am worried about Jimbo's announcement about locking some articles. See http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/computing/20050805-1259-media-wikipedia.… Regards, Zachary Harden _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

From: steve v <vertigosteve(a)yahoo.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: Phroziac <phroziac(a)gmail.com>,English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] What's wrong with the world? Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 13:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Examples: :''For the metal band, see [[United States of Discontent]]'' '''United States''' is a country in [[North America]]n continent.... :''For the [[Slobulus]] music single regarding roosters and alarm clocks, see [[Queen Elizabeth Loves the Cock]]'' [[Majesty|Her Majesty]] '''Queen Elizabeth II''' (Elizabeth Alexandra Mary [[House of Windsor|Windsor]]), styled '''''HM The Queen''''' (born [[21 April]] [[1926]]) is the [[Queen regnant]] and [[head of state]] of... Need I continue? SV

Examples: :''For the metal band, see [[United States of Discontent]]'' '''United States''' is a country in [[North America]]n continent.... :''For the [[Slobulus]] music single regarding roosters and alarm clocks, see [[Queen Elizabeth Loves the Cock]]'' [[Majesty|Her Majesty]] '''Queen Elizabeth II''' (Elizabeth Alexandra Mary [[House of Windsor|Windsor]]), styled '''''HM The Queen''''' (born [[21 April]] [[1926]]) is the [[Queen regnant]] and [[head of state]] of... Need I continue?

On 05/08/05, Haukur Þorgeirsson <haukurth(a)hi.is> wrote: I was about to cite the "Popular Culture" section of [[Space Shuttle program]] here, but it seems someone finally decided to purge it last month, and create [[Space Shuttles in fiction]]... it had grown to a truly silly size - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Space_Shuttle_program&diff=18… [[Space station]], whilst no-where near as long, has a section which basically seems to consist of "X work of fiction contained a space station". The potential for expansion of this, given the prevalence of articles about sf books and individual TV episodes, is not a cheering one... time to purge a little, I think. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

The first graph is INSANE.

Hey; I just wrote an article (jist: wikipedia will soon be more important than linux) and wanted to get feedback from people who have a detailed knowledge of wikipedia (namely, the people on this list). http://wikip.blogspot.com/2005/08/future-of-open-source-5-years-ago.html

On 05/08/05, Haukur Þorgeirsson <haukurth(a)hi.is> wrote:

truly silly size - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Space_Shuttle_program&diff=18…

From that section:

At 04:14 PM 8/5/2005, SPUI wrote: But the Google site search does: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awikipedia.org+Green+Day+Min…

On the Norse mythology articles, which is my primary sphere of interest on Wikipedia, irrelevant fancruft tends to accumulate and distract from the main content of the entries. For an example see [[Yggdrasil]] which has a large Popular Culture section and a disambiguation entry, both of which could be summarized with "a bunch of things in a bunch of games/novels/etc. have been named after the mythological Yggdrasil". Sometimes I snap and delete some of the stuff. For example I removed the following from [[Fenrisulfr]]: "Fenrir appears as a summonable character in Squaresoft's Final Fantasy IX. Also it is a summonable creature in Final Fantasy XI."

There's nothing wrong with the minority thing, but it is pretty funny. I completely agree with locking completed articles. Why should they be edited if they're done?

And how can we mark it as even nice? A template could disrupt the page, but IMHO, any type of mark on the article page is just asking for trouble. Plus, I still do not know how can one define a "done" article on here and how many will be protected on a trial basis. Regards, Zachary Harden _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

If Jimbo spoke to a German paper, could there have been a screw up in the translation? Also, how do I get on/join an IRC? TIA

And how can we mark it as even nice? A template could disrupt the page, but IMHO, any type of mark on the article page is just asking for trouble. Plus, I still do not know how can one define a "done" article on here and how many will be protected on a trial basis.

Seems like a cool idea. But given any "Wikipedia 1.0" agenda, and putting aside for a moment the aspects of being entirely unwiki and oxymoronical, there are a few general ways that this could take shape AISI: * Unwikipedia academic fork: Separate parallel wiki with Google ads and paid academics working on polishing wikipedia articles. Code would allow for easy viewing and merging of Wikipedia and Unwikipedia articles * Ghost of Nupedia (aka. Nupedia's Monster): On-wiki institution of Nupedia-style credentialism. Ranking of academic degrees by type: conservative American Ivy League institutions first, everyone else second, all the way down to mail-order degrees from North Korea. * Perma-Protectionism: Sysops are pruned by credentialsm (or less so trust), and allowed to protect and lock pages at will, banning anyone who even hints at a crackpot theory, poor spelling, or youthful ignorance. * Paranoid Web of Trust: People get ranks (in addition to barnstars) and parade them proudly. Everyone sucks up to the Board members, and they eventually get military-style badges made to pin on their (c)&™ Wikimedia Nohat-logo sweatshirts. * PATRIOT ACT : Uniting and Strengthening Wikipedia by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Trollism Act of 2005 -SV --- Bryan Derksen <bryan.derksen(a)shaw.ca> wrote: ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: RIPEMD160 steve v wrote: fnord! Ranking of academic degrees by age of institution which offers them, with weighting based on age of faculty at that institution. Anyway, the Ivy League is an athletics association. func's micronation is spreading :) - -- Alphax | /"\ Encrypted Email Preferred | \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign OpenPGP key ID: 0xF874C613 | X Against HTML email & vCards http://tinyurl.com/cc9up | / \ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Bryan Derksen (bryan.derksen(a)shaw.ca) [050806 09:58]: A bit worse than that - it puts horrible demands on the server and would promptly break Wikipedia if we dared enable it live ;-) It needs some serious algorithm optimisation for Brion to let it anywhere near live. (Please! Someone! Someones!) - d. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

There's nothing wrong with the minority thing, but it is pretty funny. I completely agree with locking completed articles. Why should they be edited if they're done?

steve v wrote: If someone does want information on the single, what else would they type? Not everyone knows how disambiguations work. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Green+Day+-+Minority&… gives no relevant results in the first page.

steve v (vertigosteve(a)yahoo.com) [050806 05:49]: Heh. In cases like that, {{otheruses}} on the main article and a disambig with two entries seems entirely sensible to me ;-)