OMG... THIS is what you are screaming about? Silly silly silly boy. They DO have a copyright to the PHOTOGRAPH you bazooka. They do NOT have a copyright to the plain text. *Throws up hands* Next non-issue please. You cannot copy their IMAGE, you can copy the text obviously.
Will Johnson
In a message dated 12/26/2008 8:26:24 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, carcharothwp@googlemail.com writes:
Agreed, including Philosophical Transactions, a journal that started in 1665:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_Transactions
Though to be fair, the digitisation only seems to go back to the 1800s so far.
This was interesting...
http://www.chrisharrison.net/projects/royalsociety/
Carcharoth
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
Wtf go look in jstor- they happily assert copyright on hundreds of thousands of pre 1928 pd documents.
On 12/25/08, WJhonson@aol.com WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 12/24/2008 2:46:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, arromdee@rahul.net writes:
There are plenty of things which people can't just force you to do, but which you can agree to do as part of a contract. If access depends on a license agreement to treat PD material as copyrighted, then it does.>>
So I take it there aren't any actual examples of JSTOR doing this.
I'm glad we can now ignore this moot issue and move forward.
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Yes. Though I'm not the one screaming here. :-)
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On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 7:30 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
OMG... THIS is what you are screaming about? Silly silly silly boy. They DO have a copyright to the PHOTOGRAPH you bazooka. They do NOT have a copyright to the plain text. *Throws up hands* Next non-issue please. You cannot copy their IMAGE, you can copy the text obviously.
Will Johnson
In a message dated 12/26/2008 8:26:24 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, carcharothwp@googlemail.com writes:
Agreed, including Philosophical Transactions, a journal that started in 1665:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_Transactions
Though to be fair, the digitisation only seems to go back to the 1800s so far.
This was interesting...
http://www.chrisharrison.net/projects/royalsociety/
Carcharoth
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxwell@gmail.com wrote:
Wtf go look in jstor- they happily assert copyright on hundreds of thousands of pre 1928 pd documents.
On 12/25/08, WJhonson@aol.com WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 12/24/2008 2:46:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, arromdee@rahul.net writes:
There are plenty of things which people can't just force you to do, but which you can agree to do as part of a contract. If access depends on a license agreement to treat PD material as copyrighted, then it does.>>
So I take it there aren't any actual examples of JSTOR doing this.
I'm glad we can now ignore this moot issue and move forward.
Will Johnson
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2008/12/26 WJhonson@aol.com:
OMG... THIS is what you are screaming about? Silly silly silly boy. They DO have a copyright to the PHOTOGRAPH you bazooka. They do NOT have a copyright to the plain text. *Throws up hands* Next non-issue please. You cannot copy their IMAGE, you can copy the text obviously.
Not in the US:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridgeman_Art_Library_Ltd._v._Corel_Corporation
Possibly in the UK. Case law is not entirely clear, basically no-one wants to go first.
Tthough in the case of the National Portrait Gallery, Wikipedia long ago said "Make my day." And the V&A has endorsed us getting photos of lots of their stuff, see [[WP:WLART]], so the attempt to impose such conditions may come to be seen as being as odious as it is.
- d.