Looks like we suddenly have another big change to monobook, with all the unicode symbols below the edit box being reformatted to involve hide/show buttons. However, they're still all lumped together, unlike at other Wikipedias like the French one, and unlike the brief trial that occurred on en.
Similarly, a few days ago it looked like a new warning appeared when you create a new page, that advertising etc will be harshly removed.
Is there a way of being notified of these changes before they suddenly appear?
Steve
Steve Bennett wrote:
Looks like we suddenly have another big change to monobook, with all the unicode symbols below the edit box being reformatted to involve hide/show buttons. However, they're still all lumped together, unlike at other Wikipedias like the French one, and unlike the brief trial that occurred on en.
Commons has one of the best that I've seen; it was taken from de.wp, de.wikt and en.wikt - the code for it is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools.js
Similarly, a few days ago it looked like a new warning appeared when you create a new page, that advertising etc will be harshly removed.
That's [[MediaWiki:Newarticletext]].
Is there a way of being notified of these changes before they suddenly appear?
Read [[WP:VP]]? Anyway, it's not like everything's pink with <BLINK> tags...
On 6/22/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote:
Commons has one of the best that I've seen; it was taken from de.wp, de.wikt and en.wikt - the code for it is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools.js
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I believe that it was tried on en.Wikipedia but then rejected for some reason or another.
Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:
Commons has one of the best that I've seen; it was taken from de.wp, de.wikt and en.wikt - the code for it is at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools.js
Something like this was tried on enwiki, but IIRC had the unfortunate side-effect of increasing the load-time for each page to a scary number of whole seconds.
The version at commons certainly seems to have no such problem, and it would be interesting to compare the two: is the difference because of a better implementation or something inherent to the two wikis?
HTH HAND
On 6/22/06, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a way of being notified of these changes before they suddenly appear?
Technically these are not changes to the monobook skin itself but to some of the messages (from the msg: namespace) that are transcluded into the interface by it. These messages are editable (although many are protected and thus editable only by admins) and there has not been, up to now, any formal procedure for approving changes to them. They are handled like policy pages and the like.
Currently we have no global warnings if someone edits policy pages either.
Perhaps it would be a good idea, but it would be a significant change to the way things are done.
-Matt
On 6/23/06, Matt Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
Technically these are not changes to the monobook skin itself but to some of the messages (from the msg: namespace) that are transcluded into the interface by it. These messages are editable (although many are protected and thus editable only by admins) and there has not been, up to now, any formal procedure for approving changes to them. They are handled like policy pages and the like.
It's the MediaWiki namespace actually. The whole namespace is only ever editable by admins, and cannot be unprotected.
Currently we have no global warnings if someone edits policy pages either.
Perhaps it would be a good idea, but it would be a significant change to the way things are done.
It's easier to keep track of changes to MediaWiki pages, just select the MediaWiki namespace in Recent Changes like so: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ARecentchanges&namesp...
Most non trivial MediaWiki changes are generally at least mentioned on the associated MediaWiki_talk: pages.
xaosflux ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Bain" stephen.bain@gmail.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@wikipedia.org Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Monobook suddenly changed?
On 6/23/06, Matt Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
Technically these are not changes to the monobook skin itself but to some of the messages (from the msg: namespace) that are transcluded into the interface by it. These messages are editable (although many are protected and thus editable only by admins) and there has not been, up to now, any formal procedure for approving changes to them. They are handled like policy pages and the like.
It's the MediaWiki namespace actually. The whole namespace is only ever editable by admins, and cannot be unprotected.
Currently we have no global warnings if someone edits policy pages either.
Perhaps it would be a good idea, but it would be a significant change to the way things are done.
It's easier to keep track of changes to MediaWiki pages, just select the MediaWiki namespace in Recent Changes like so: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ARecentchanges&namesp...
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On 6/22/06, Stephen Bain stephen.bain@gmail.com wrote:
It's easier to keep track of changes to MediaWiki pages, just select the MediaWiki namespace in Recent Changes like so: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ARecentchanges&namesp...
Thanks, useful link!
Steve