-----Original Message----- From: Anthony [mailto:wikimail@inbox.org] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 07:56 AM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Is Slate an attack site?
On 10/12/07, fredbaud@waterwiki.info fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
We permit anonymous editing. This includes administrators who do not publicly disclose their identity. We do not make an exception which requires effective administrators, administrators who perform their duties aggressively and well, to disclose their identity because people are aggrieved by them performing work for us well.
Anonymity, bans, and rules against conflicts of interest don't get along together. You can't choose all three.
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You're on to something there. And we have chosen all three. My suggestion would be to abandon anonymity.
Fred
On Oct 12, 2007, at 10:04 AM, fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
Anonymity, bans, and rules against conflicts of interest don't get along together. You can't choose all three.
You're on to something there. And we have chosen all three. My suggestion would be to abandon anonymity.
Conflicts of interest seem the more sensible ones to rule out. Our rules against POV pushing already go against the worst problems of conflicts of interest, making the CoI rule something that mostly forbids good editing.
-Phil
On 10/12/07, Phil Sandifer Snowspinner@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 12, 2007, at 10:04 AM, fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
Anonymity, bans, and rules against conflicts of interest don't get along together. You can't choose all three.
You're on to something there. And we have chosen all three. My suggestion would be to abandon anonymity.
Conflicts of interest seem the more sensible ones to rule out. Our rules against POV pushing already go against the worst problems of conflicts of interest, making the CoI rule something that mostly forbids good editing.
But admins are the ones who enforce those rules against POV pushing, and they don't do so in anything remotely approaching a mechanical way.
Bans are also in conflict with anonymity. Just look at all the efforts taken to block anonymous proxies.