Five words: "This policy in a nutshell". A true piece of open source software, a derivative version, "This page in a nutshell" has become much more popular.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Nut...
Strangely, it's even turning up in article space now:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avocats_Sans_Fronti%C3%A8res
It just amused me.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
Strangely, it's even turning up in article space now:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avocats_Sans_Fronti%C3%A8res
It just amused me.
Removed now, along with most of the article (which was a copyright violation).
Nathan
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Nathan nawrich@gmail.com wrote:
Removed now, along with most of the article (which was a copyright violation).
I actually kind of liked the idea of a very brief summary. Maybe not using the nutshell template, but it could work, particularly when you have a number of articles on very similar topics or different aspects of the same topic. The dab links kind of do it...but in a limited way.
Steve
Those are great for long policy pages, especially for new users. It's probably one of my favorite templates in terms of usability. They might be a little too useful though, people want to use them everywhere! ;)
I don't really like template cruft in the article like that, but the idea is great. I think the first paragraph should be the same thing though. (The topic in a nutshell).
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Judson Dunn cohesion@sleepyhead.orgwrote:
Those are great for long policy pages, especially for new users. It's probably one of my favorite templates in terms of usability. They might be a little too useful though, people want to use them everywhere! ;)
I don't really like template cruft in the article like that, but the idea is great. I think the first paragraph should be the same thing though. (The topic in a nutshell).
Judson
Yeah, it is a great idea.... that's why we have article introductions, right?
- causa sui
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Ryan Delaney ryan.delaney@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:39 AM, Judson Dunn <cohesion@sleepyhead.org
wrote:
Those are great for long policy pages, especially for new users. It's probably one of my favorite templates in terms of usability. They might be a little too useful though, people want to use them everywhere! ;)
I don't really like template cruft in the article like that, but the idea is great. I think the first paragraph should be the same thing though. (The topic in a nutshell).
Judson
Yeah, it is a great idea.... that's why we have article introductions, right?
- causa sui
Yep! Our style of having an introductory paragraph that is a summary of the salient points of the whole article (rather than a "hook" to get people to read the whole thing) is a great editorial choice in my opinion. It also makes our content, with the API, extremely re-usable. For example, the National Library of Australia sucks in our introductory paragraph of articles about Australian newspapers for use in their newspaper digitsation project - for example, look in the top-right hand corner of their landing page for "The Argus": http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/13 (they also do a similar thing with our articles about individual authors in their book catalogue search.
-Liam [[wittylama]]
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On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, it is a great idea.... that's why we have article introductions, right?
- causa sui
Yep! Our style of having an introductory paragraph that is a summary of the salient points of the whole article (rather than a "hook" to get people to read the whole thing) is a great editorial choice in my opinion. It also makes our content, with the API, extremely re-usable.
Yes...to a point. Our opening sentences very strictly define the topic, frequently with birth/death dates, names in other languages, and claim to notability. I'm thinking of a sentence that serves strictly to delineate this topic, and contrast with other articles.
Compare: Kim Jong-il (also written as Kim Jong Il, Korean: 김정일; born 16 February 1941; official biographies state 16 February 1942[1]) is the Supreme Leader[2] of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (also known as North Korea).
With: About Kim Jong-il, current leader of North Korea, his personal and public life.
I don't know, I haven't really thought this out.
For example, the National Library of Australia sucks in our introductory paragraph of articles about Australian newspapers for use in their newspaper digitsation project - for example, look in the top-right hand corner of their landing page for "The Argus": http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/title/13 (they also do a similar thing with our articles about individual authors in their book catalogue search.
Yeah, I love that site. :)
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/profile/user:public:stevage
Do you have any professional connection with the site? I was nearly going to be doing some work with them, but it fell through.
Steve