The Wikicharts are back in the news, with BoingBoing reporting on Conservapedia's most popular pages:
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/11/21/top-ten-most-viewed.html
The Wikicharts are a sampled raw page count:
http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/%7Eleon/stats/wikicharts/index.php?lang=e... http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCharts
The hits on "Main Page" will be people just going to the site. The hits on "wiki" will not be because of a society-wide fascination with editable websites, but (I would guess) because people have typed "wiki" into a search engine. I suspect a lot of the sex-related hits will be disappointed porn seekers.
The question is: what does "popular" actually usefully mean? Raw page hits demonstrably isn't quite it. "Pages with most hits gone to by people looking for information" (whether starting from Wikipedia, a search engine or a link) is closer to what we're after (even if it's hard to quantify intent). Ideas?
(Thankfully it's a little harder to rig the charts on Wikipedia than on Conservapedia.)
- d.
On 24/11/2007, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
The Wikicharts are back in the news, with BoingBoing reporting on Conservapedia's most popular pages:
http://www.boingboing.net/2007/11/21/top-ten-most-viewed.html
The Wikicharts are a sampled raw page count:
http://hemlock.knams.wikimedia.org/%7Eleon/stats/wikicharts/index.php?lang=e... http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiCharts
The hits on "Main Page" will be people just going to the site. The hits on "wiki" will not be because of a society-wide fascination with editable websites, but (I would guess) because people have typed "wiki" into a search engine. I suspect a lot of the sex-related hits will be disappointed porn seekers.
Doubtful. Consider the most looked up words in your average kid's dictionary. In addition someone looking for info on armored fighting vehicles could be looking at one of hundreds of pages (anything from [[Bob Semple tank]] to [[Iosif Stalin tank]]) people looking for stuff on sex are likely to end up at one of of a smaller number of pages thus the interest ends up being concentrated over a small number of pages.
The question is: what does "popular" actually usefully mean? Raw page hits demonstrably isn't quite it. "Pages with most hits gone to by people looking for information" (whether starting from Wikipedia, a search engine or a link) is closer to what we're after (even if it's hard to quantify intent). Ideas?
The normal approach is to look at viewing times (for example we know people tend to look at Barack Obama's article for longer than they tend to look at Hillary Clinton's). However we can't do that. The next approach would be to look at how many related articles people look at but again there would be privacy issues so we can't really do that.
On 24/11/2007, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
The question is: what does "popular" actually usefully mean?
It shows you which pages most need to be kept vandalism free.
I think the wikipedia itself needs to start providing a stat page for each and every article, it's potentially pretty cheap to do as well as useful and interesting.
I don't care that much what is on it, but keeping any kind of statistics is better than none.
- d.
On 11/25/07, Ian Woollard ian.woollard@gmail.com wrote:
It shows you which pages most need to be kept vandalism free.
I think the wikipedia itself needs to start providing a stat page for each and every article, it's potentially pretty cheap to do as well as useful and interesting.
There is the real concern that as soon as we start publishing which articles get looked at the least, certain kinds of vandals will be drawn to those. Which really just means we need better anti-vandal tools, of course.
Steve
On 25/11/2007, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
There is the real concern that as soon as we start publishing which articles get looked at the least, certain kinds of vandals will be drawn to those. Which really just means we need better anti-vandal tools, of course.
Admins can see [[Special:Unwatchedpages]], which are those on no-one's watchlist. Discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Special:Unwatchedpages
- d.