I think there is a consensus.
Fred
-----Original Message----- From: Daniel R. Tobias [mailto:dan@tobias.name] Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2007 02:21 PM To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Spam blacklist and BADSITES
User:JzG has just, without any discussion whatsoever, added antisocialmedia.net to the English Wikipedia spam blacklist, although usual practice is to discuss all entries in the talk page beforehand. Since this is a site that has been termed a so-called "attack site" because it reveals information about certain prominent Wikipedians that they want to suppress, adding it to the spam blacklist serves as yet another backdoor to sneak in a spawn of the failed BADSITES policy to censor discussion. The spam blacklist is intended for the specific purpose of stopping spammed links to irrelevant sites, and I know of no consensus for any policy to (ab)use it in other manners.
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On 09/09/2007, fredbaud@waterwiki.info fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
I think there is a consensus.
Fred
What do you base this claim on?
fredbaud@waterwiki.info schrieb:
I think there is a consensus.
Fred
Although I personally agree to blacklisting that site, looking at the current, related request for arbitration gives the impression that sufficient consensus does not really exist.
At the very least the *timing* of both the Afd for [[Judd Bagley]] and this blacklisting are rather questionable.
-----Original Message----- From: Daniel R. Tobias [mailto:dan@tobias.name] Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2007 02:21 PM To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Spam blacklist and BADSITES
User:JzG has just, without any discussion whatsoever, added antisocialmedia.net to the English Wikipedia spam blacklist, although usual practice is to discuss all entries in the talk page beforehand. Since this is a site that has been termed a so-called "attack site" because it reveals information about certain prominent Wikipedians that they want to suppress, adding it to the spam blacklist serves as yet another backdoor to sneak in a spawn of the failed BADSITES policy to censor discussion. The spam blacklist is intended for the specific purpose of stopping spammed links to irrelevant sites, and I know of no consensus for any policy to (ab)use it in other manners.
-- == Dan ==
In my opinion, this site should have been blacklisted ages ago, and I asked related question a while back.
Adrian
On 9/9/07, fredbaud@waterwiki.info fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
I think there is a consensus.
Consensus? I call bullshit. Fred, you know that voices in your head do not count as a consensus even when they agree.
I think the community can be assured this is not a action taken with the endorsement of arbcom, this is just an instance of Fred making vague suggestions that some random batshit action was officially endorsed. ... and not the first such instance in the last couple of weeks.