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Message: 8 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2006 10:52:41 -0600 From: "Kelly Martin" kelly.lynn.martin@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Analysis of Request for Adminship To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@wikipedia.org Message-ID: bd4c411e0604020952s623ec6fr7b607a60bbe1e77f@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 4/1/06, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
What backlogs do we have that only admins can deal with?
Indeed. I'm not clear when the policy that a non-admin cannot close an AfD came into play, for example. When I was first an admin, it was the case that non-admins could close AfDs, but it's my understanding now that a non-admin who attempts to close an AfD will probably get blocked.
Kelly
I closed quite a few this January without being blocked. Including a few relatively controversial articles. While I have since been informed that I shouldn't have closed those ones, nobody said anything about them to me at the time, much less blocked me.
-- Jonel
On 4/2/06, nwilkins@bu.edu nwilkins@bu.edu wrote:
I closed quite a few this January without being blocked. Including a few relatively controversial articles. While I have since been informed that I shouldn't have closed those ones, nobody said anything about them to me at the time, much less blocked me.
There's no reason why a non-admin cannot close a keep, except that the process wonks have decided that only an admin can do this, for no reason that makes any sense to me.
Kelly
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 11:55:53 -0600, you wrote:
There's no reason why a non-admin cannot close a keep, except that the process wonks have decided that only an admin can do this, for no reason that makes any sense to me.
I wasn't aware that even the process wonks had decided this. I'm pretty sure I closed some speedy keeps before I was an admin, nobody called me on it. Guy (JzG)
On 4/2/06, Kelly Martin kelly.lynn.martin@gmail.com wrote:
There's no reason why a non-admin cannot close a keep, except that the process wonks have decided that only an admin can do this, for no reason that makes any sense to me.
Really? From memory, strong keeps can explicitly be closed by non-admins in the official process. However, all deletes (strong or otherwise) cannot.
Steve
[[Wikipedia:Maintenance]] used to say "There is a common misconception that only administrators can deal with Wikipedia:Votes for deletion." It seems there is still this misconception, and for some reason, that statement was replaced last July with the ambiguous "Non-admins can help keep deletion pages clean by resolving discussions." (I'm not sure what "resolving" means here, but I suppose it could be inferred to mean closing.
The rule at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Non-Administrators_c... says "Non-administrators may only close decisions which are unambiguous 'keep' decisions" and unregistered users can't close them at all. This was added last June with little discussion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Deletion_process#Non_admins_and_...
Angela.
On 4/3/06, Angela beesley@gmail.com wrote:
[[Wikipedia:Maintenance]] used to say "There is a common misconception that only administrators can deal with Wikipedia:Votes for deletion." It seems there is still this misconception, and for some reason, that statement was replaced last July with the ambiguous "Non-admins can help keep deletion pages clean by resolving discussions." (I'm not sure what "resolving" means here, but I suppose it could be inferred to mean closing.
If I can ask, what is the benefit of a non-admin closing a delete decision? He can't actually carry out the deletion, so is it just a question of saving a bit of housekeeping for the eventual admin?
Steve
If I can ask, what is the benefit of a non-admin closing a delete decision? He can't actually carry out the deletion, so is it just a question of saving a bit of housekeeping for the eventual admin?
Most of the deletion discussions that need closing don't result in deletion, so what reason is there for non-admins not to close those ones? I don't think anyone is suggesting non-admins should close ones where the outcome is deletion.
Angela.
-- Angela Beesley Wikimedia.org || Wikia.com Aim/MSN/Yahoo/Jabber: Wikiangela Gmail/Skype: Beesley
Steve Bennett wrote:
On 4/2/06, Kelly Martin kelly.lynn.martin@gmail.com wrote:
There's no reason why a non-admin cannot close a keep, except that the process wonks have decided that only an admin can do this, for no reason that makes any sense to me.
Really? From memory, strong keeps can explicitly be closed by non-admins in the official process. However, all deletes (strong or otherwise) cannot.
Heh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/WD...
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ma...
On 4/3/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&...
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/WD...
Someone actually voted "hoaxcruft, nn". What's next?
Steve