Placeopedia is an online application which integrates Google Maps images and Wikipedia encyclopedia articles.See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placeopedia andhttp://www.placeopedia.com/.
The Board are currently working on a logo licensing contract which would permit such sites to use the Wikipedia logo.
A new mailing list for Placeopedia has recently been created at http://www.mysociety.org/mailman/listinfo/mysociety-maps and they would welcome input from Wikipedians on various aspects of the site.
For example, some issues already raised are whether links to Placeopedia should be added automatically to all Wikipedia articles that have a corresponding entry in Placeopedia. There is already a template for this on the English Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Placeopedia) but so far any links have only been added manually.
Another issue is whether users of Placepedia should be able to add categories to Wikipedia directly from Placeopedia.
If you have an interest in maps, please join the mailing list to help answer these Wikipedia-related questions. http://www.mysociety.org/mailman/listinfo/mysociety-maps
Angela.
A link to the placeopedia [PP] entry might not be useful on average. On the other hand, a geotag, formatted according to Wikipedia geotagging-style (once that is settled on), could be added automatically. Then an eager geotagging Wikipedian could quickly find the right geo-coordinates via PP, add a PP entry with the appropriate title, and thereby update the WP article.
On 10/17/05, Angela beesley@gmail.com wrote:
The Board are currently working on a logo licensing contract which would permit such sites to use the Wikipedia logo.
Huzzah for that.
++sj
SJ wrote:
A link to the placeopedia [PP] entry might not be useful on average. On the other hand, a geotag, formatted according to Wikipedia geotagging-style (once that is settled on), could be added automatically. Then an eager geotagging Wikipedian could quickly find the right geo-coordinates via PP, add a PP entry with the appropriate title, and thereby update the WP article.
We already have lat/long automatically in all Rambot articles, and whenever I write an article about a bridge or the like I put it in using the geolinks-US-fooscale templates.
On 10/17/05, SPUI drspui@gmail.com wrote:
SJ wrote:
A link to the placeopedia [PP] entry might not be useful on average. On the other hand, a geotag, formatted according to Wikipedia geotagging-style (once that is settled on), could be added automatically. Then an eager geotagging Wikipedian could quickly find the right geo-coordinates via PP, add a PP entry with the appropriate title, and thereby update the WP article.
We already have lat/long automatically in all Rambot articles, and whenever I write an article about a bridge or the like I put it in using the geolinks-US-fooscale templates.
I put latitude and longitude on a bunch of my images on the commons. It'd be nice if there was a standard for that, and we could probably tag a large portion of the images there.
I put latitude and longitude on a bunch of my images on the commons. It'd be nice if there was a standard for that, and we could probably tag a large portion of the images there.
How do you do that out of interest? GPS? Can you give an example URL.
Lots of UK place articles have UK grid refs and so on which could be extracted, although they need conversion. I would add more geo data if there were standard templates etc. I do have a GPS card somewhere, but I wish my camera had it built in.
I am very keen on adding geolocation data to wikipedia. The google maps interface is nasty though - more interested in building it into WP itself.
On 10/18/05, Justin Cormack justin@specialbusservice.com wrote:
I am very keen on adding geolocation data to wikipedia. The google maps interface is nasty though - more interested in building it into WP itself.
It would have to be a seperate wikiproject since it isn't really part of createing an enclyopedia.
-- geni
On 18 Oct 2005, at 02:54, geni wrote:
On 10/18/05, Justin Cormack justin@specialbusservice.com wrote:
I am very keen on adding geolocation data to wikipedia. The google maps interface is nasty though - more interested in building it into WP itself.
It would have to be a seperate wikiproject since it isn't really part of createing an enclyopedia.
The location of things is encyclopaedic. I am very interested in different interfaces to encyclopaedic material, based around image and location, which print could never do for space and cost reasons. Not a short term project though, although I had a few ideas to play with once browsers do native SVG.
Justinc
On 10/17/05, Justin Cormack justin@specialbusservice.com wrote:
I put latitude and longitude on a bunch of my images on the commons. It'd be nice if there was a standard for that, and we could probably tag a large portion of the images there.
How do you do that out of interest? GPS? Can you give an example URL.
Nah, I just did it by hand using one of those map sites (I think it was mapquest). And now that I'm looking, I did it with a lot fewer pictures than I thought I did. I can't find an example, and I swear I looked up the information on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Vetstadium.jpg and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:DSCF0281.JPG. Anyway, this search function on mediawiki really sucks, I don't yet have my images on commons well organized, and I have an assignment for a class due in 4 hours, so I'm going to have to bail on finding an example for now.
I actually managed to create a replica of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Capemaypoint.JPG using google earth. It had the same angle and zoom and everything. I had this displayed on a subpage of my user page, and I thought it was pretty damn neat, but it was deleted by Kelly Martin. I think I still have the image on a hard drive somewhere, but it's not on my main drive.
Lots of UK place articles have UK grid refs and so on which could be
extracted, although they need conversion. I would add more geo data if there were standard templates etc. I do have a GPS card somewhere, but I wish my camera had it built in.
Yeah, I'd love to have a camera that could just add it to the metadata.
I am very keen on adding geolocation data to wikipedia. The google
maps interface is nasty though - more interested in building it into WP itself.
In the really long term I'd love to see an open content mapping site. In the meantime I think we should stick to using templates if we're going to link to non-open content sources. This way we can change the source if anyone ever does come out with something open.
OK, back to work. 3 hours and 50 minutes left.
Anthony DiPierro wrote:
I put latitude and longitude on a bunch of my images on the commons. It'd be nice if there was a standard for that, and we could probably tag a large portion of the images there.
How about a general format like:
{{geotag|system|place|locator[|reference system]}}
so that there could be any of the following (nonsense examples with fake data):
{{geotag|OSGB|Kentish town|TQ 763 124}}
{{geotag|UTM|White House|8SUU8401}}
{{geotag|lat_long_dms|Burkina Faso|45:30:30 N 15:25:20 E|WGS84}}
{{geotag|lat_long_decimal|Burkina Faso|45.625 N 15.123 E|WGS84}}
At the start, these could just be display templates that generate (say) a little system-specific icon and text in a box, but they could be soon changed to expand to contain directives such as (say)
<geotag fmt="OSGB" place="Kentish town" locator="TQ 763 124" reference=""/>
to be processed by a specialized geotag extension that is capable of parsing each of the specified formats, and inter-converting between the different formats and coordinate systems.
-- Neil
I saw another site recently which also integrated Wikipedia results into its performance (in a way which was not a simple mirror) -- seeing two of these in one day made me think perhaps we'd need a category for these specifically (I couldn't find one pre-existing), so I created [[Category:Technologies which use Wikipedia]] for the time being (not the most elegant name -- in fact I think it is grammatically incorrect now that I think about it, the whole which/that thing -- but fortunately at the moment I know of only two of them so it shouldn't be hard to change). If there are others of this sort, it would be great to put them into a category of this sort (assuming one doesn't already exist), though if someone wants to rename my sad little category, please do...
FF
On 10/17/05, Angela beesley@gmail.com wrote:
Placeopedia is an online application which integrates Google Maps images and Wikipedia encyclopedia articles.See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placeopedia andhttp://www.placeopedia.com/.
The Board are currently working on a logo licensing contract which would permit such sites to use the Wikipedia logo.
A new mailing list for Placeopedia has recently been created at http://www.mysociety.org/mailman/listinfo/mysociety-maps and they would welcome input from Wikipedians on various aspects of the site.
For example, some issues already raised are whether links to Placeopedia should be added automatically to all Wikipedia articles that have a corresponding entry in Placeopedia. There is already a template for this on the English Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Placeopedia) but so far any links have only been added manually.
Another issue is whether users of Placepedia should be able to add categories to Wikipedia directly from Placeopedia.
If you have an interest in maps, please join the mailing list to help answer these Wikipedia-related questions. http://www.mysociety.org/mailman/listinfo/mysociety-maps
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