On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 12:56 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7446
Spotted by Mathias.
Good thing he didn't do it on an extra special version...
"After a brief period of independence following the Russian revolution, the Red Army sucks forced Georgia to join the Soviet Union in 1922 because Tom from boston is ghey."
- Joe
2008/8/11 David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com:
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7446
Spotted by Mathias.
Not convinced. First extract too short and the second has very different wording and the common structure is a time line that doesn't mean much.
2008/8/11 geni geniice@gmail.com:
2008/8/11 David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com:
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7446
Spotted by Mathias.
Not convinced. First extract too short and the second has very different wording and the common structure is a time line that doesn't mean much.
Agreed. They're stating the same facts, so it's not surprising they do so in a similar way. How different could a description of those facts get?
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:26 AM, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
Not convinced. First extract too short and the second has very different wording and the common structure is a time line that doesn't mean much.
I mostly agree, but the fact that some phrases are completely identical in the second quote ("brief period of independence", "regained its independence", "economic crisis") makes me think that his writers at the very least got the information from wikipedia and rewrote it slightly. But I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Everyone (including presidential candidates and their writers) has to look up stuff from time to time. Whether it's from Britannica, Wikipedia or "Georgian History for Dummies!" is really not that big of a deal.
--Oskar
You can tell it's from Wikipedia by looking at the versions of the article from before Kober rewrote it (an excellent rewrite, btw): old: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgia_(country)&oldid=213907... newer: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgia_(country)&oldid=213908...
I wonder how many professors would accept the "same facts" excuse the McCain campaign gave.
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Oskar Sigvardsson < oskarsigvardsson@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 12:26 AM, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
Not convinced. First extract too short and the second has very different wording and the common structure is a time line that doesn't mean much.
I mostly agree, but the fact that some phrases are completely identical in the second quote ("brief period of independence", "regained its independence", "economic crisis") makes me think that his writers at the very least got the information from wikipedia and rewrote it slightly. But I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Everyone (including presidential candidates and their writers) has to look up stuff from time to time. Whether it's from Britannica, Wikipedia or "Georgian History for Dummies!" is really not that big of a deal.
--Oskar
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On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:56 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=7446
Spotted by Mathias.
I was wondering why McCain read the text of the GFDL at the end of his speech!
I think Obama should look out for the smear that he's an elitist whose speeches are based on Citizendium.
Charles