Hello all,
New here; first post. I'm a longtime Wikipedia user and recent first-time editor. Had a rather discouraging incident with regard to my first article on the site, rather an eye-opener as I've attempted to study up on how things work -- or are supposed to work, and finding out that the loftier philosophies of the site really don't seem to hold a great reverence within the system.
This is not just based on my one experience -- I was trying to save the article I'd written from deletion and trekked around the site looking for proper reasons it should survive. And I found them! Presenting them -- another matter. I then researched other such situations and found a very common theme. I also found external articles with numerous examples of discouraged editors -- and especially former editors.
So on point with this situation, "how do you talk the guy off the ledge" -- naturally that's situational, but after that's resolved, the good question for prevention is "why did he get there?" And from what I've seen, there seems so much room for frustration, and so much room for conflict. The site has an article for so many "internal" situations, too -- and it almost begins to seem like the Bible in that someone can find a section to address nearly every circumstance. i.e., you can justify both "yes" and "no" some way or another. Hard to believe then, that conflicts arise?
The site sounds so wonderful as you enter -- "Come on in! Start writing! Be bold! Break the rules!" and you're heartened by the seeming generosity of spirit. Until you actually encounter some experienced editors. The problem here then becomes something I've seen over and again in my own career -- people are actually more comfortable with "rules" than with vague standards which could allow for wiggle room. They all KNOW about the pillars and IAR and pay lip service -- but in practice, they have little real application. What's surprising is -- administrators seem to behave the same!
My own philosophy as a supervisor/manager in my own career has been: if you're only there to make sure the rules are adhered to -- then you make yourself obsolete. No company needs a walking, talking version of the policy manual. What a supervisor exists for is more toward making sure the spirit of several objectives are met, including the policy's intent weighed against what's actually best for all concerned. If the policy says you close at 6:00 and the customer gets there at 6:01, you can turn him away and be "right" but suffer loss of goodwill and business for the company -- so how good was your judgement in that situation? And would you expect the company's owner to pat you on the back after that customer gets ahold of him?
This may be overly simple in an interest to keep this short-ish, but it feels like the starting point of sorts would seem to lie with these administrators. Maybe they are "just" editors with better tools, but they have the experience with the site and they are the ones looked to for fair judgement and good example-setting. Special attention should be given to them as they are the de-facto frontline conflict resolution sources, and their education on how to do that well will serve to stave off larger conflicts and ALSO keep conflicts from escalating into the laps of the higher-ups, who would likely rather spend their time dealing with loftier matters!
I don't know what the actual screening process is here; perhaps it does contain elements of the higher intentions of the site before approval is reached. Usually as advancement goes in most companies, a front-line worker does a good job and expects a promotion -- but everything he learned as a worker is not geared toward supervision. Soon after that promotion, his former fellow workers start grumbling and complaining about his "power trips." Because -- as a new supervisor, he is overly diligent toward that policy manual, and tries to gain respect by insisting on his authority. So who really trained him on wiggle room and "earning" respect? Who teaches them that "real" power is had by knowing how to lead without carrying a sledgehammer by one's side?
That's part of the goal then -- to get rid of the sledgehammers so that people don't keep getting clobbered.
Jon Q wrote:
The site sounds so wonderful as you enter -- "Come on in! Start writing! Be bold! Break the rules!" and you're heartened by the seeming generosity of spirit. Until you actually encounter some experienced editors. The problem here then becomes something I've seen over and again in my own career -- people are actually more comfortable with "rules" than with vague standards which could allow for wiggle room. They all KNOW about the pillars and IAR and pay lip service -- but in practice, they have little real application. What's surprising is -- administrators seem to behave the same!
You make some good points. Of course Wikipedia isn't utopian - nothing is, and even less so on the Internet with no screening of editors.
Translating from the "world of wiki" to the "world of work", as you do later in your post, what we really lack in admin selection could perhaps be summed up as a "standard psychological test" that could reveal who would show up in tense situations with an understated, reasonable, but firm approach. This thread originated in an issue where there must have been some failure to observe such standards, and not just on one side.
I don't think there is any consensus as to what should be done. I'm of the school that thinks that admins should get on with editing and routine tasks, and only get involved with issues as they crop up (but should never duck those that do). The trouble with the other, more authoritarian approach typefied by AN is that it produces both wrong outcomes and an adverse reaction that now reveals itself as nay-saying in the community. My two cents.
Charles