http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Wylie
My source for the death is a tweet.
It is a tweet from the official Bletchley Park feed, so I think it's reliable enough ... but I've asked them for more, and a photo if they can :-)
Remember: "reliable sources" is a guideline and requires the application of good sense.
- d.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Wylie
My source for the death is a tweet.
It is a tweet from the official Bletchley Park feed, so I think it's reliable enough ... but I've asked them for more, and a photo if they can :-)
Remember: "reliable sources" is a guideline and requires the application of good sense.
Indeed. I would think that twitter feeds can be reliable under the same approach as for blogs - if the blog is an official source of information by a media outlet, or other institution which is reliable, it is a reliable source.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Wylie
My source for the death is a tweet.
It is a tweet from the official Bletchley Park feed, so I think it's reliable enough ... but I've asked them for more, and a photo if they can :-)
Remember: "reliable sources" is a guideline and requires the application of good sense.
Suggest upgrading the source later as needed. I wonder how long it will be before someone writes a list of "Twitter firsts"...
Carcharoth
2009/10/7 David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Wylie
My source for the death is a tweet.
It is a tweet from the official Bletchley Park feed, so I think it's reliable enough ... but I've asked them for more, and a photo if they can :-)
Remember: "reliable sources" is a guideline and requires the application of good sense.
- d.
Template:Cite press release would probably be the closest but there are other options:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Citation_templates
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Wylie
My source for the death is a tweet.
It is a tweet from the official Bletchley Park feed, so I think it's reliable enough ... but I've asked them for more, and a photo if they can :-)
Remember: "reliable sources" is a guideline and requires the application of good sense.
- d.
Here's what I wonder: how do we apply WP:V to *tweets* in a few decades?
2009/10/7 Gwern Branwen gwern0@gmail.com:
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:54 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Wylie
My source for the death is a tweet.
It is a tweet from the official Bletchley Park feed, so I think it's reliable enough ... but I've asked them for more, and a photo if they can :-)
Remember: "reliable sources" is a guideline and requires the application of good sense.
- d.
Here's what I wonder: how do we apply WP:V to *tweets* in a few decades?
-- gwern
I doubt the fad will last that long and anything significant will have been dealt with through other sources. I suspect the challenge in a few decades will be sources that change a fair bit and don't publicly change log to to the extent wikipedia does.
Cite:Interactive media has the potential to be interesting
Legally speaking citing stuff that is protected by defunct DRM may be a future problem.
For the rather longer term citing interplanetary sources is going to be one of the problems an interplanetary wikipedia would face.
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:52 AM, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
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For the rather longer term citing interplanetary sources is going to be one of the problems an interplanetary wikipedia would face.
You just get the feeling, don't you, that the future sometimes takes care of itself. Can the way information is handled change so much that "citing" it becomes irrelevant? Will all information packets contain within themselves some "provenance", allowing people to verify the information first-hand? And will the programs used by that far-future information-gathering and information-querying system spider along the information trail to verify things for those gathering the information?
Or will information networks in the future be a contradictory mess?
Imagine citing information in a world where time travel was possible! Or there were alternate universes! How about citing information passed between alien species with a totally different concept of information recording and flow?
Are we fully off-topic for this list yet? :-)
Carcharoth
2009/10/8 Carcharoth carcharothwp@googlemail.com:
Are we fully off-topic for this list yet? :-)
Absolutely on-topic - it's all about We're Here To Write An Encyclopedia!
- d.
2009/10/8 Carcharoth carcharothwp@googlemail.com:
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 12:52 AM, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
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For the rather longer term citing interplanetary sources is going to be one of the problems an interplanetary wikipedia would face.
You just get the feeling, don't you, that the future sometimes takes care of itself. Can the way information is handled change so much that "citing" it becomes irrelevant? Will all information packets contain within themselves some "provenance", allowing people to verify the information first-hand? And will the programs used by that far-future information-gathering and information-querying system spider along the information trail to verify things for those gathering the information?
All moves to move the internet in that dirrection have been kind of shot down and the P2P mob are actualy working to take us further away from this senario.
Or will information networks in the future be a contradictory mess?
See no reason for them to be any worse on earth than they are now. You hit issues with interplanetry stuff due to limited bandwidth and poor ping times (Jubiter is at best half an hour away. Want to try editing wikipedia with that kind of lag?)
Imagine citing information in a world where time travel was possible!
Acessdate should keep up with that.
Or there were alternate universes!
|Universe=alpha| or one namespace per universe.
How about citing information passed between alien species with a totally different concept of information recording and flow?
Finding ways to transcribe such information into human formats is likely to be a problem others deal with before wikipedia.