-----Original Message----- From: David Goodman [mailto:dgoodmanny@gmail.com]

Suggestion: an abbreviated process if limited remedies are sought, such as topic bans, or article or revert probation, and the full process only when banning or desysop is to be considered.

David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.

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Such remedies are often called for even though we are not considering them. In practice, until you get into the case, you can't tell how difficult (or divisive --which is the real issue) a matter is.

Although some cases are obviously simple and some obviously divisive.

Fred