You are describing original research. Putting together information you have gathered from
various sources and creating a sort of biography. But it is a pseudobiography, without
substantial reference to the person described, except as they have received incidental
media coverage. A golem you yourself have breathed life into.
Fred
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From: MacGyverMagic/Mgm [mailto:macgyvermagic@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 05:48 AM
To: 'English Wikipedia'
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Fwd: Opt Out for Not So Notable Biographies
A newspaper article usually goes into detail about a specific event.
Biographies discusses a person's entire life.
If you require someone to already have a published biography, it looks like
you want to delete articles which can be written based on multiple newspaper
sources rather than one biography. (Either that or we have some semantic
issues again). Thing is, Wikipedia is often the only place that bothers to
put all the biographical info about someone in one place. Just because no
one collected the info before doesn't make them any less notable. The info
is there. We need to judge notability one what someone did. If someone wrote
about them, it provides the sources. But the way that was done has no
bearing on their notability.
Mgm
On 4/9/07, Slim Virgin <slimvirgin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/8/07, Fred Bauder <fredbaud(a)waterwiki.info> wrote:
From:
Thomas Dalton [mailto:thomas.dalton@gmail.com]
Define "Not so notable". If you can do that well, then this idea might
have merit, but currently it is far too vague and will just result in
arguments over notability, rather than over content.
Not so notable is the rough dividing line between public figures and
those who are
not. George W. Bush is a public figure as as most of those who
regularly appear in the media. Those whose doings are not ordinarily covered
by the media are not public figures, although something interesting may have
happened to them and there has been spot coverage.
One way to determine notability sufficient
to justify a Wikipedia
biography is whether that person has already had a biography published
by a reliable third-party source, either in a form of a newspaper
article or a book. If we were to adopt a "no first biography"
criterion, it would ensure not only that our subjects are truly
notable, but would also help to ensure accuracy, because we'd have a
published biography to base the Wikipedia article on.
Sarah
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