Hi!
I was pleased to receive an invitation from Mav on my talk page to accept sysop status. I'm glad that I've earned a little bit of trust here; I've enjoyed working on the Wikipedia and I'll be happy to accept. My time is somewhat more limited now than it has been in previous months, but I'll help out whenever I can.
I've subscribed to the mailing list and looked through the archives, and looked over the admin guidelines. Like others, I'm hesitant about banning IPs -- I'll follow more experienced admins' lead on that front, but I'll keep my eyes open for other opportunities to help.
Thanks again! Catherine
--- artslave artslave@usa.net wrote:
I've subscribed to the mailing list and looked through the archives, and looked over the admin guidelines. Like others, I'm hesitant about banning IPs -- I'll follow more experienced admins' lead on that front, but I'll keep my eyes open for other opportunities to help.
Thanks again! Catherine
Hi Catherine...
I hardly dare to ask, I have been sorry so many times because of misleading pseudos... Are you really a woman ? (if this question is not considered too personal ?)
As for banning people (blocking IP and banning people is not exactly the same notion), you may just do as others do, just don't ban if you don't feel confortable to do so. It is not a requirement at all.
You may follow other more gentle ways to help with very annoying users, rather than just "banning" them by a crude block.
I highly recommand reading the inspiring
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bans
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bans_and_blocks
and http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikipediAhimsa
and to lay out any thoughts there
anthere
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At 11:26 PM 5/13/2003 -0700, you wrote:
I hardly dare to ask, I have been sorry so many times because of misleading pseudos... Are you really a woman ? (if this question is not considered too personal ?)
LOL -- yes, I'm really a woman, and yes, this is even my real name. My user page lists me as "mother / artist / programmer / role-playing gamer", and that's all for real too -- I have a wonderful son and daughter that I hope will have fun using and contributing to Wikipedia someday. My three-year-old son is already so used to interactive websites and DVDs that he gets frustrated just WATCHING a movie -- he wants to be able to click something, change something, make things happen! Perhaps that's the nature of three-year-olds and short attention spans, but I think it's good that he doesn't just want a passive experience. It's part of the reason that I've become addicted to Wikipedia too. I can't tell you how many other error-laden websites I've visited that actually had me reaching for the mouse to go click that "Edit This Page" link.....
I've occasionally wondered if it's been wise to use my real name as my username, given how easily unpleasantness can arise at Wikipedia and argumentative trolls can cause trouble for real people, but if people like Brion Vibber can do so, I suppose I can too. Just for my own curiosity, would it be possible to change my username without creating a new account, and retain my watchlist etc.?
Overall, I've been pleased with the interactions I've had here ... we're all an expert in something. I've had a few brief confusions with other editors over British/American usage and a mistaken copyright issue, but they were both settled swiftly and with courtesy -- I just wanted to add my two cents that the WikiLove really does outweigh the negativity in my experience -- we just don't talk about it nearly as much.
You may follow other more gentle ways to help with very annoying users, rather than just "banning" them by a crude block.
I highly recommand reading the inspiring
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bans
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bans_and_blocks
and http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikipediAhimsa
and to lay out any thoughts there
Thank you very much for the links, Anthere -- I haven't browsed the Meta much, because I'm much more interested in real work than meta-work. ;) But that gives me a better idea of the community's previous thoughts on the issue.
Cheers, Catherine
--- Catherine Munro artslave@usa.net wrote:
At 11:26 PM 5/13/2003 -0700, you wrote:
I hardly dare to ask, I have been sorry so many
times
because of misleading pseudos... Are you really a woman ? (if this question is not considered too personal ?)
LOL -- yes, I'm really a woman, and yes, this is even my real name. My user page lists me as "mother / artist / programmer / role-playing gamer", and that's all for real too --
Yo !!!!
You would not speak french by chance, no ? If so, come over there, we need you (ok, I admit, I need you, but in time, the others might discover they need you too :-)))
I have a wonderful
son and daughter that I hope will have fun using and contributing to Wikipedia someday. My three-year-old son is already so used to interactive websites and DVDs that he gets frustrated just WATCHING a movie -- he wants to be able to click something, change something, make things happen!
Just the same. The kids knew how to handle a mouse before they knew how to speak. We don't even have TV so the computer availability is a permanent fight. My son was very sad when I gave up Age of Empire for Wikipedia. He says it is definitly less fun. With luck he will change his mind later when the times come to educate himself on female anatomy. I must admit I have thought many times leaving him the room to edit an article on his own. If only for free vandalism :-)
Perhaps that's the nature of three-year-olds and short attention spans, but I think it's good that he doesn't just want a passive experience. It's part of the reason that I've become addicted to Wikipedia too. I can't tell you how many other error-laden websites I've visited that actually had me reaching for the mouse to go click that "Edit This Page" link.....
wikipediholic, yes I know I put some [[]] everywhere in my dreams big issue
I've occasionally wondered if it's been wise to use my real name as my username, given how easily unpleasantness can arise at Wikipedia and argumentative trolls can cause trouble for real people, but if people like Brion Vibber can do so, I suppose I can too. Just for my own curiosity, would it be possible to change my username without creating a new account, and retain my watchlist etc.?
When I have some doubts from time to time, I google my pseudo, and then I have no more doubts...even though it is a real word. Did you try ?
Overall, I've been pleased with the interactions I've had here ... we're all an expert in something. I've had a few brief confusions with other editors over British/American usage and a mistaken copyright issue, but they were both settled swiftly and with courtesy
Sure. There are so many rules and guidelines no one can be expected to know all of them. Hum... I do not know even half of them I guess :-) But there is always someone to remind me That also comes that the french rules or different from the english rules, that does not help but that is more fun :-)
I just wanted to add my two cents that the WikiLove really does outweigh the negativity in my experience -- we just don't talk about it nearly as much.
That's a men world perhaps ? They don't have it so easy to fall in sentimentalism.
You may follow other more gentle ways to help with very annoying users, rather than just "banning"
them
by a crude block.
I highly recommand reading the inspiring
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bans
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bans_and_blocks
and http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikipediAhimsa
and to lay out any thoughts there
Thank you very much for the links, Anthere -- I haven't browsed the Meta much, because I'm much more interested in real work than meta-work. ;) But that gives me a better idea of the community's previous thoughts on the issue.
Cheers, Catherine
please do browse it Cat (may I ?)
But, please be aware that among these three links - one is older, but permanently relevant - The other ones are not "previous thoughts", they are "current thoughts". I hope they inspire coming policy (by coming, I mean in somehow...2 mn ?)
Meta is not *only* repository of old stuff. Don't be fooled by the fact some move their old stuff and irrelevant to wikipedia stuff.
Pleased to meet you, and my best to the sweet little ones future readers and contributors
My youngest is 5 years today. I have a chocolate cake with a spider on it (request) to make :-)
Ant
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--- Anthere anthere6@yahoo.com wrote:
wikipediholic, yes I know I put some [[]] everywhere in my dreams big issue
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On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 07:10:52AM -0700, Catherine Munro wrote:
I've occasionally wondered if it's been wise to use my real name as my username, given how easily unpleasantness can arise at Wikipedia and argumentative trolls can cause trouble for real people, but if people like Brion Vibber can do so, I suppose I can too. Just for my own curiosity, would it be possible to change my username without creating a new account, and retain my watchlist etc.?
It is possible to change the username. What's difficult to change are the signatures you made to Talk:-page contributions. While the username is only one field in the database that can be easily changed by a developer, the signatures are text in the middle of an article. It would take very long to replace all those.
Requesting a user name change should not be done easily. We currently need our developers time to improve wikipedia's performance!
Regards,
JeLuF
On Thu, 2003-05-15 at 16:46, Jens Frank wrote:
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 07:10:52AM -0700, Catherine Munro wrote:
I've occasionally wondered if it's been wise to use my real name as my username, given how easily unpleasantness can arise at Wikipedia and argumentative trolls can cause trouble for real people, but if people like Brion Vibber can do so, I suppose I can too. Just for my own curiosity, would it be possible to change my username without creating a new account, and retain my watchlist etc.?
It is possible to change the username. What's difficult to change are the signatures you made to Talk:-page contributions. While the username is only one field in the database that can be easily changed by a developer, the signatures are text in the middle of an article. It would take very long to replace all those.
Old signatures can of course simply be left as is, and the user page redirected to the new name.
Requesting a user name change should not be done easily. We currently need our developers time to improve wikipedia's performance!
Well, I'd prefer not to be _inundated_ with name-changes, but I'm happy to make such changes on request from those unsatisfied with their present identities. :)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)