Hi, I am a budding coin collector and currently involved in some correspondence with a licensing representative at the U.S. Mint. It appears that there are a number of coin images that may not be a work of the U.S Government - the original coin designer has retained the copyright.
If the Mint finds that there are infringing images involved, as I am not an admin, I do not have the power to delete. Could I enlist the help of someone here?
Thanks, Angela
I would suggest making a post on wiki about the issue, perhaps at the admin's noticeboard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AN. and inform us of which coins have a copy right issue, wikipedia admins skilled in this area will be able to have a look see, and do something about the problem. Thank you for your concerns.
On 6/18/07, Angela Anuszewski psu256@member.fsf.org wrote:
Hi, I am a budding coin collector and currently involved in some correspondence with a licensing representative at the U.S. Mint. It appears that there are a number of coin images that may not be a work of the U.S Government - the original coin designer has retained the copyright.
If the Mint finds that there are infringing images involved, as I am not an admin, I do not have the power to delete. Could I enlist the help of someone here?
Thanks, Angela
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On 6/18/07, Eagle 101 eagle.wikien.l@gmail.com wrote:
I would suggest making a post on wiki about the issue, perhaps at the admin's noticeboard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AN. and inform us of which coins have a copy right issue, wikipedia admins skilled in this area will be able to have a look see, and do something about the problem. Thank you for your concerns.
On 6/18/07, Angela Anuszewski psu256@member.fsf.org wrote:
Hi, I am a budding coin collector and currently involved in some correspondence with a licensing representative at the U.S. Mint. It appears that there are a number of coin images that may not be a work of the U.S Government - the original coin designer has retained the copyright.
If the Mint finds that there are infringing images involved, as I am not an admin, I do not have the power to delete. Could I enlist the help of someone here?
Thanks, Angela
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On 6/18/07, Angela Anuszewski psu256@member.fsf.org wrote:
If the Mint finds that there are infringing images involved, as I am not an admin, I do not have the power to delete. Could I enlist the help of someone here?
Although, in many cases, we could justifiably claim fair use.
-Matt
On 6/18/07, Matthew Brown morven@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/18/07, Angela Anuszewski psu256@member.fsf.org wrote:
If the Mint finds that there are infringing images involved, as I am not an admin, I do not have the power to delete. Could I enlist the help of someone here?
Although, in many cases, we could justifiably claim fair use.
Well, the ball is back in the Mint's court - I certainly don't have any expertise in this area. I had asked a question of the Mint because there was a particular image on the "requested images" page and there were images available on their website on a "library" page. There are many other images that have been taken from that page other than the one I inquired about.
I emailed the Mint about the image - the text of my email was this: "There is a current request for an image of the 2002 West Point Bicentennial Coin to be added as an illustration to the article on West Point. I am writing to see if the images in question are or are not in the public domain as a work of the U.S. Government."
The response I got was this: "Thanks for your inquiry about the 2002 West Point Bicentennial Coin. That image is not in the public domain. For many commemorative coins you need permission from the United States Mint to use the image. I've attached an application that you can fax to me at *number snipped*. If you have any questions, you can call me at *number snipped*. Normal processing time can take up to 4 weeks."
I thanked the person from the Mint that responded, and sent them a link to the category page for U.S. coinage because I believe there are some images that may be at issue and if they would be so kind to review them, if they so desire.
I did not specify in my response, but I am thinking the coins at issue are Jamestown 400th anniversary coins, the San Fransisco Old Mint commemorative, and possibly the coins covered in the Presidential $1 coin act (with the possible exception of the American Buffalo due to the age of the design.)
It may be possible to claim fair use, but if the Mint disagrees, do you really want to fight it? I sure don't.
Thanks, Angela
On 6/18/07, Angela Anuszewski psu256@member.fsf.org wrote
The response I got was this: "Thanks for your inquiry about the 2002 West Point Bicentennial Coin. That image is not in the public domain. For many commemorative coins you need permission from the United States Mint to use the image.
I think it's important to clarify between the specific image of the coin, which the Mint may be claiming copyright on because they paid for it to be taken (possibly negated by Bridgeman v. Corel, but still insisted on by many), and copyright on the design of the coin itself. IANAL etc.
Makemi
On 18/06/07, Mak makwik@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/18/07, Angela Anuszewski psu256@member.fsf.org wrote
The response I got was this: "Thanks for your inquiry about the 2002 West Point Bicentennial Coin. That image is not in the public domain. For many commemorative coins you need permission from the United States Mint to use the image.
I think it's important to clarify between the specific image of the coin, which the Mint may be claiming copyright on because they paid for it to be taken (possibly negated by Bridgeman v. Corel, but still insisted on by many), and copyright on the design of the coin itself. IANAL etc.
Of course, if the Mint took the photo itself, the photo is then PD because it's a work of the US Federal government, is it not?
On 6/18/07, James Farrar james.farrar@gmail.com wrote:
Of course, if the Mint took the photo itself, the photo is then PD because it's a work of the US Federal government, is it not?
No while the US Federal government might not have a claim that doesn't impact on the rights anyone else might have.
Angela Anuszewski wrote:
Hi, I am a budding coin collector and currently involved in some correspondence with a licensing representative at the U.S. Mint. It appears that there are a number of coin images that may not be a work of the U.S Government - the original coin designer has retained the copyright.
If the Mint finds that there are infringing images involved, as I am not an admin, I do not have the power to delete. Could I enlist the help of someone here?
This should not be a problem. We have no shortage of admins who are willing to delete things with minimal provocation.
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