From: The Cunctator cunctator@gmail.com To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@wikipedia.org Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:36:50 -0500 Subject: [WikiEN-l] Alternative names for the Counter Vandalism Unit On 2/7/06, Jay Converse supermo0@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/7/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/6/06, The Cunctator cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
Pretty much the best kinds of project names are ones that are either expressly positive (i.e. their name assumes good faith, doesn't create an us/them dichotomy), or failing that are ironicly ugly (like "bureaucrat", "benevolent dictator", or "spelling nazi" or "mediation cabal").
Vandalism Cleaning Brigade? Grafitti Purging Workforce?
Okay in that they're simply descriptive.
Slaves for an Unvandalised Wikipedia?
Good.
The Anti-vandalism Superheroes?
That's both us/them and not ironicly ugly.
Vandalism Posse?
Us/them.
Other ideas--positive:
The Fencepainting Project (Shades of Tom Sawyer, with other neighborhood-building connotations.) Welcome Mat Project (the vast amount of vandalism is newbie-ish--enfolding handling vandalism into the concept of welcoming new users makes sense to me. I.e. there are no strangers, just friends we haven't met (and indoctrinated).)
Ironically positive: Care Bear Brigade (I know this was discussed and negged earlier, but it's hilarious.)
Ugly: Users for Mindless Conformity.
Again, [[Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism]]. Simple. descriptive. Non us/them. And it's already on the works
On 2/7/06, Pedro Sanchez pdsanchez@gmail.com wrote:
The Fencepainting Project (Shades of Tom Sawyer, with other neighborhood-building connotations.)
Like it.
Welcome Mat Project (the vast amount of vandalism is newbie-ish--enfolding handling vandalism into the concept of welcoming new users makes sense to me. I.e. there are no strangers, just friends we haven't met (and indoctrinated).)
Yeah...but...there are real vandals after all.
Ironically positive: Care Bear Brigade (I know this was discussed and negged earlier, but it's hilarious.)
Too cryptic.
Again, [[Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism]]. Simple. descriptive. Non us/them. And it's already on the works
Didn't see this. It's perfect.
Steve
On 2/7/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/7/06, Pedro Sanchez pdsanchez@gmail.com wrote:
The Fencepainting Project (Shades of Tom Sawyer, with other neighborhood-building connotations.)
Like it.
Welcome Mat Project (the vast amount of vandalism is newbie-ish--enfolding handling vandalism into the concept of welcoming new users makes sense to me. I.e. there are no strangers, just friends we haven't met (and indoctrinated).)
Yeah...but...there are real vandals after all.
(OT: There aren't barbarian hordes riding in from the North to ravage the Empire. The worst anyone can do with Wikipedia, really, is piss people off for a while (which I recognize is not meaningless). But it's not physical property destruction or personal physical harm.)
Ironically positive: Care Bear Brigade (I know this was discussed and negged earlier, but it's hilarious.)
Too cryptic.
Again, [[Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism]]. Simple. descriptive. Non us/them. And it's already on the works
Didn't see this. It's perfect.
I prefer names that don't give credit to vandalism -- I mean, there's going to be a segment of people that are excited about committing crimes of annoyance in the world. If you clean up stuff without crediting it as a crime, it makes it easier to deal with.
Further, as I've said before, I think *positive* rather than negative names are healthier.
Pre-natal care and kindergarten preferable to juvenile detention preferable to prisons.
So although I'll continue to advocate names that don't include the word vandalism, I'd certainly support any compromise....
On 2/7/06, The Cunctator cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
Again, [[Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism]]. Simple. descriptive. Non us/them. And it's already on the works
Didn't see this. It's perfect.
I prefer names that don't give credit to vandalism -- I mean, there's going to be a segment of people that are excited about committing crimes of annoyance in the world. If you clean up stuff without crediting it as a crime, it makes it easier to deal with.
Ok. Wikiproject: Cleaning up unsightly mess.
Depends what the project does exactly. I was under the impression that CVU actively deals with vandals with warnings, friendly messages or whatnot.
Hang on, why are we trying to make the name uncool again? Why don't we want people to join?
Steve