Zoe zoecomnena@yahoo.com writes:
RK has gone on a tirade against the [[Chiropratic]] article, and is trying to make it out to be a dangerous religious cult (yes, he has said that).
This is a distortion, and that I can only regard it as an attempt to discredit me. Grow up. I made a number of specific statements about medical science and history; your problem is that you ignored the statements, and went on the attack against me.
Zoe is angry because I added factual historical information to this article that she is apparently embarassed by; Chiropractic theory is an 18th century religious theory, one of many created at that time which attempted to fuse science and religion. (This is really not a shocking claim for anyone read in this subject; this was a very common phenomenon.) According to the National Council Against Health Fraud, both its beliefs and the way it indoctrinates true believers fits the dictionary definition of a cult. This is also how many medical doctors view the practice. (Although I am not a medical doctor, I have taken a few medical school classes with doctors.)
I did write that chiropractic medicine is considered to be dangerous, and that it injures and kills some people every year. That is a well-documented fact. Medical doctors and scientists are aghast at the way that chirpracters injure large numbers of people. I then backed this up with a large list of medical citations about injuries and deaths. Zoe's response was to delete all of these facts. That action, I hold, is a violation of our NPOV policy.
I also am bothered by the way that previous versions of the article made no attempt to delineate between the quasi-religious beliefs of chiropractic theory (which attempts to treat many or all diseases by manipulating the spine), and the legitimate medical art/science of spinal manipulation, which restricts itself to treating a small number of spinal problems through careful manipulation of the spine.
I have already stated that I am willing to work with Zoe and others, but we can't do any work as long as everything new is ruthlessly deleted!
RK
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Robert wrote:
Zoe is angry because I added factual historical information to this article that she is apparently embarassed by; Chiropractic theory is an 18th century religious theory, one of many created at that time which attempted to fuse science and religion. (This is really not a shocking claim for anyone read in this subject; this was a very common phenomenon.) According to the National Council Against Health Fraud, both its beliefs and the way it indoctrinates true believers fits the dictionary definition of a cult.
I would not dispute that religion played a significant role in the early development of chiropractic in the 18th century and earlier. That, however, is a reflection on a time when the objectives of science had to be consistent with those of the church. There was no requirement that the consistency had to be rational. It is a fallacy to believe that we are still in the 18th century.
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