Hello everyone!
It turns out that VfD is used as a general forum to determine what to do with an article. Deletion is an option but redirect, cleanup, & copyvio are used as well. So I suggest renaming "Votes for deletion" to "Triage".
The VfD header message can be changed accordingly --
"This article has been listed on Wikipedia:Triage because someone decided it would be a good idea to get some more eyeballs on it."
I'm thinking such a message is more accurate, and also gentler on new contributors, whose articles end up on VfD out of proportion to their numbers.
Maybe "Triage" isn't the best name since it suggests trauma. Any other ideas?
For what it's worth, Robert Dodier (Wile E. Heresiarch)
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On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 05:23:59 UTC, Timwi timwi@gmx.net wrote:
Robert Dodier wrote:
Maybe "Triage" isn't the best name since it suggests trauma. Any other ideas?
Votes for an article's fate? :)
Triage by consensus. A peculiarly Wikipedian idea, in more than one sense of "peculiar". Go for it.
Robert Dodier wrote
It turns out that VfD is used as a general forum to determine what to do with an article. Deletion is an option but redirect, cleanup, & copyvio are used as well. So I suggest renaming "Votes for deletion" to "Triage".
It's more like a filter, in a way. I don't have an immediate answer to the VfD issue. I'd prefer it divided into some rough categories, by topic area. I can see that this goes against the idea that it should be run as a rough-and-ready democratic forum. I also think WP could move to more explicit page-rating levels, with say 1 = good stub, 5 = featured article. This allows level 0 = serious need of clean-up, -1 for delete if not quickly salvaged, -2 = rapid delete.
Charles
Folks,
I think this is a useful suggestion but I think we need to have the opportunity to say why the article has been rated so we can see the justification.
Regards
Keith
Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote: Robert Dodier wrote
It turns out that VfD is used as a general forum to determine what to do with an article. Deletion is an option but redirect, cleanup, & copyvio are used as well. So I suggest renaming "Votes for deletion" to "Triage".
It's more like a filter, in a way. I don't have an immediate answer to the VfD issue. I'd prefer it divided into some rough categories, by topic area. I can see that this goes against the idea that it should be run as a rough-and-ready democratic forum. I also think WP could move to more explicit page-rating levels, with say 1 = good stub, 5 = featured article. This allows level 0 = serious need of clean-up, -1 for delete if not quickly salvaged, -2 = rapid delete.
Charles
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This is interesting, but I would like to focus on keeping things that don't really need deletion of Vfd, and trying to get another forum for article cleanup. Cleanup needs to be 'sexed up' somehow though - people seem much more enclined to vote for article deletion than to put effort into deleting it - perhaps awards editors working hardest to save articles from deletion? Mark
--- Robert Dodier robert_dodier@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello everyone!
It turns out that VfD is used as a general forum to determine what to do with an article. Deletion is an option but redirect, cleanup, & copyvio are used as well. So I suggest renaming "Votes for deletion" to "Triage".
The VfD header message can be changed accordingly --
"This article has been listed on Wikipedia:Triage because someone decided it would be a good idea to get some more eyeballs on it."
I'm thinking such a message is more accurate, and also gentler on new contributors, whose articles end up on VfD out of proportion to their numbers.
Maybe "Triage" isn't the best name since it suggests trauma. Any other ideas?
For what it's worth, Robert Dodier (Wile E. Heresiarch)
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Robert Dodier wrote:
It turns out that VfD is used as a general forum to determine what to do with an article... So I suggest renaming "Votes for deletion" to "Triage".
VfD should not be used as a general forum to determine what to do with an article. VfD is for pages that should be deleted. If it needs redirecting or whatever, list it on Cleanup, discuss it on the talk page, or just take the action required. If it's a copyvio, list it on [[Wikipedia:Copyright problems]]. Misuse of VfD is a reason to change the way people use it, not a reason to rename it.
Angela.
Angela wrote:
Robert Dodier wrote:
It turns out that VfD is used as a general forum to determine what to do with an article... So I suggest renaming "Votes for deletion" to "Triage".
VfD should not be used as a general forum to determine what to do with an article. VfD is for pages that should be deleted.
I suppose VfD is being used for loads of purposes because everyone knows that everyone else watches VfD more closely than anything else (in all honesty, significantly fewer people are interested in copyright problems).