-----Original Message----- From: Info Control [mailto:infodmz@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 10:49 AM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Brandt unblocked by Jimbo - community support?
On 4/19/07, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
Jimmy has given three reasons:
- he asked nicely
- we are talking about a productive way forward in the future
- it has been more than a year
These seem like good reasons to me, and I trust his judgment in this matter. I think we should all be willing to try out such experiments more frequently, rather than dividing our world into friends and enemies.
Also, I'm inclined to agree with you, but my questions are still sort of out there... can the community overrule Jimbo, or is Jimbo pulling an OFFICE to overrule previous decisions by multiple admins here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Community_sanction_notic...
It's really more a question of what is Jimbo's authority in this matter relative to the decisions of other admins.
Wikilegally,
Daniel Brandt filed an arbitration case regarding his ban. Whether it was a community ban was one of the questions posed. Opinion was divided, but the case was rejected. However, one of the matters which the arbitration committee may consider is a community ban. Appeal of an arbitration decision is to Jimbo. Daniel Brandt appealed to Jimbo with the result we see. The arbitration committee can overturn a community ban, so can Jimbo.
Offenses of the party and community opinion are taken into account, but do not control.
Fred
On 4/19/07, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
Daniel Brandt appealed to Jimbo with the result we see. The arbitration committee can overturn a community ban, so can Jimbo.
Offenses of the party and community opinion are taken into account, but do not control.
Fred
A full commutation from Jimbo is unlikely because of Jimbo's COI. Jimbo echoed some rather disparaging remarks to *Editor & Publisher, *so granting clemency now makes it appear an admission of culpability the statements were unwarranted. The question now is, can Jimbo recuse himself from his role as God-king and the Court of Last Resort, and who can he delegate it to?
Oh, what a tangled web we weave.....