[Poor's message failed to appear in my Hotmail inbox, so I am replying to him via Saintonge's message, which did appear]
[Mr. Poor wrote:]
Mr. Royce,
Please do not call other list members names or otherwise make nasty personal remarks.
"Mr. Tim Starling is either a liar or an easily-fooled person."
Which is worse, calling someone a liar or libel?
As you should know, libel is a false publication, as in writing, print, signs, or pictures, that damages a person's reputation.
If someone tells lies about you, what are you going to call him?
(And anyone who reads my Usenet messages can see that I am by no means a vicious person.)
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From: Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: [roy_q_royce@hotmail.com: --A RequestRE aWIKIArticle--] Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:49:02 -0700
Poor, Edmund W wrote:
Mr. Royce,
Please do not call other list members names or otherwise make nasty personal remarks.
"Mr. Tim Starling is either a liar or an easily-fooled person."
Yes, he has fallen into the same sewer as those who called him a crackpot. ;-)
Ec
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--- Roy Royce roy_q_royce@hotmail.com wrote:
[Mr. Poor wrote:]
Mr. Royce,
Please do not call other list members names or otherwise make
nasty
personal remarks.
"Mr. Tim Starling is either a liar or an easily-fooled
person."
Which is worse, calling someone a liar or libel?
As you should know, libel is a false publication, as in writing, print, signs, or pictures, that damages a person's reputation.
Mr. Royce,
When an administrator as busy as Ed Poor takes time to pen a message to remind you to be civil and courteous to members of this project, please be kind enough to acknowledge his advice, and be mature enough to thank him for his direction.
The reminders he pointed to you are not solely his personal views, but those of the wikipedia group, and while we like to entertain each other to some degree, we all realize that we are working together to build an encyclopedia, and that working together means to be civil and courteous to one another regardless of our differing views and opinions.
Thank you for taking the time to read these words.
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Roy Royce wrote:
[Poor's message failed to appear in my Hotmail inbox, so I am replying to him via Saintonge's message, which did appear]
[Mr. Poor wrote:]
Mr. Royce,
Please do not call other list members names or otherwise make nasty personal remarks.
"Mr. Tim Starling is either a liar or an easily-fooled person."
Which is worse, calling someone a liar or libel?
Mr Royce, your question is a non sequitor. If you believe that Tim Starling was wrong abut what he said, the proper way that demonstrates Wikilove is to say "I belive Tim Starling is in error when he says..."
Presenting yourself to a fresh audience by accusing someone they know better than you a liar immediately makes all of your words sound shrill. In a word, you lost credibility off the start. Then, by writing of lies & libel, you've damaged your credibility further.
[snip]
(And anyone who reads my Usenet messages can see that I am by no means a vicious person.)
I don't need to read your Usenet messages. I participated in alt.religion.scientology for several years; I know viciousness. Your email that I am responding to is vicious.
Take a few minutes to calm down, consider how you can present your case in a non-accusatory tone, then do so in an email. Let's assume misunderstandings before you start seeing hostile intentions where none exist.
Geoff