On 4/3/07, "The Cunctator" cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
What we have here is a creative selection of listings.
Which has been compiled by Wikipedians, not by the show.
No, it hasn't. The listing has been compiled by 'Top Gear'. The list has been copied down from the screen by a Wikipedian based solely on what was on the screen, adding nothing, changing nothing, removing nothing, just writing a list of what was on the screen. The creative input from the Wikipedian was nil.
Suppose there was a television music show with a sing-along song, where the words were displayed on 'idiot boards' for the studio audience. A wikipedian watches the show and copies down the lyrics off the boards displayed in the studio and clearly visible on the television. That would still be an infringement of the copyright of the lyricist of the song. This is the same thing, only with a list of cars.
On 4/3/07, Sam Blacketer sam.blacketer@googlemail.com wrote:
On 4/3/07, "The Cunctator" cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
What we have here is a creative selection of listings.
Which has been compiled by Wikipedians, not by the show.
No, it hasn't. The listing has been compiled by 'Top Gear'. The list has been copied down from the screen by a Wikipedian based solely on what was on the screen, adding nothing, changing nothing, removing nothing, just writing a list of what was on the screen. The creative input from the Wikipedian was nil.
Did the complete list ever appear on Top Gear?
Suppose there was a television music show with a sing-along song,
where the words were displayed on 'idiot boards' for the studio audience. A wikipedian watches the show and copies down the lyrics off the boards displayed in the studio and clearly visible on the television. That would still be an infringement of the copyright of the lyricist of the song. This is the same thing, only with a list of cars.
And lyrics and names of cars are completely different. If someone took the last word uttered on each episode of Seinfeld and called the resultant listing lyrics and composed a song to those lyrics that wouldn't be copyright infringement either.
Again, you're not a copyright lawyer, so stop making Statements of Fact As If You Are The Infallible Judge.
On 4/3/07, The Cunctator cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/3/07, Sam Blacketer sam.blacketer@googlemail.com wrote:
On 4/3/07, "The Cunctator" cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
What we have here is a creative selection of listings.
Which has been compiled by Wikipedians, not by the show.
No, it hasn't. The listing has been compiled by 'Top Gear'. The list has been copied down from the screen by a Wikipedian based solely on what was on the screen, adding nothing, changing nothing, removing nothing, just writing a list of what was on the screen. The creative input from the Wikipedian was nil.
Did the complete list ever appear on Top Gear?
Suppose there was a television music show with a sing-along song,
where the words were displayed on 'idiot boards' for the studio audience. A wikipedian watches the show and copies down the lyrics off the boards displayed in the studio and clearly visible on the television. That would still be an infringement of the copyright of the lyricist of the song. This is the same thing, only with a list of cars.
And lyrics and names of cars are completely different. If someone took the last word uttered on each episode of Seinfeld and called the resultant listing lyrics and composed a song to those lyrics that wouldn't be copyright infringement either.
Again, you're not a copyright lawyer, so stop making Statements of Fact As If You Are The Infallible Judge.
p.s. Sorry for the tone. I didn't mean to be so strident.
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 13:23:28 -0400, "The Cunctator" cunctator@gmail.com wrote:
Did the complete list ever appear on Top Gear?
Every week, in the form of a board with all the cars pictured. New ones added each week, the board shown in full at least once per show.
Guy (JzG)