Hmmm. I can see both sides of this. Of course, DW has been undiplomatic,
but on the other side, putting a country of origin next to a person's
details sometimes makes sense and sometimes it doesn't. I haven't read
DW's reasoning on this (or Zoe's) but nation-states were born with the
Treaty of Westphalia (1648). Prior to that, the concept of countries was
quite fluid. City-states were more often the norm (in areas that had
advanced beyond tribalism).
If no one else want's to do it, I'll try reasoning with DW. Let me know.
M Carling
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, james duffy wrote:
It may just be a once off, but it is worth keeping an
eye out for. One of
DW's many arguments with Zoe rested her (correct) decision to put in a
country of orgin next to a person's details. He screamed blue murder and
obscenities about this. At 5.06am GMT (Monday, Jan 27) DW 'doctored' an
article on George Washington to add in the word ''British'' to describe
the
first US president, with a note that said
''inserting nationality as per rules asserted
repeatedly by Zoe . . . DW''
Hopefully it is a rather childish once off bit of vandalism, but it is worth
keeping an eye out just in case. Being rude, obnoxious and offensive is one
thing (apparently I'm now a 'phoney', so he has obviously reached P in his
dictionary!) but deliberately tampering with articles out of spite is a more
serious matter. If that is his standard of behaviour, does Wiki really need
DW? Has the time come for a ban, even a short one, to bring him to his
senses.
JT
From: Lee Pilich <pilich(a)btopenworld.com>
Reply-To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org
To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] DW continues to win friends
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 01:08:02 +0000
At 16:47 25/01/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Check out my talk page. Not only has DW attacked
me as a moron, but he
has specifically mentioned Jtdirl and and Deb as morons. And you've
already seen what he's had to say about Magnus Manske. And then check out
[[Wikipedia talk:Tokerboy's Law]] and [[Talk:Georges Seurat]].
Zoe
Yes, I'm afraid things have got to the stage where I simply don't edit DW's
contributions for fear of getting into a big and stupid and pointless
argument with him (I really commend Zoe for taking him on, because it's a
completely unenviable task). He writes some pretty good biographies
(although they are *pure* biography - he'll tell you where a poet studied
and what she had for breakfast in 1917, but won't tell you much about her
poems), but I tend to think that he's more trouble than he's worth. I've
completely lost my rag with him a couple of times, which I'm not proud of,
but he does have this tremendous knack of getting up people's noses.
I'm not saying we should ban him, but it would be nice if somebody who
doesn't hate him as much as I do and who maybe hasn't had dealings with him
before could have a go at asking him to be polite, consider that the 'pedia
is a work in progress, that he doesn't "own" the pages he writes, and that
sort of thing. I'm really worried that he's going to drive new users away
(and maybe some old ones as well).
Good luck to anybody who tries to talk to him.
lp (camembert)
WikiKarma: [[Frank Stella]] (a couple of days old, but I've been really
busy in the real world)
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