From: "William King" <williamcarlking(a)gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:14 PM To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] JarlaxleArtemis/Grawp > I strongly agree. Something must be done very soon. I noticed just in > the > past hour or so on RC patrol, Grawp harassed a few more users. > > William King (Willking1979) > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Durova" <nadezhda.durova(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 5:24 PM > To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] JarlaxleArtemis/Grawp > >> There would be no shortage of people to sign a petition to the ISP, if >> you >> want to go that route. This has gone on long enough. >> >> -Durova >> >> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM, George Herbert >> <george.herbert(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Ian Woollard <ian.woollard(a)gmail.com >>> >wrote: >>> >>> > 2008/12/11 Fran Rogers <fran(a)nutmeg.ws>ws>: >>> > > Personally, I'm utterly bamboozled. This kid is nineteen years old >>> > > and >>> in >>> > > college; he's an adult, and he has his entire life ahead of him. >>> > > Yet he >>> > > still continues to anonymously threaten and harass people on the >>> > Internet, >>> > > even though he's clearly stepped into illegal territory, his >>> > > identity >>> is >>> > > known along with reams of evidence of his misdeeds connecting them >>> > > to >>> > him, >>> > > and his parent upon whom he's still dependent has been alerted. >>> > > And >>> > > he >>> > still >>> > > soldiers on, using Mom's broadband to move pages on Wikipedia to >>> > > titles >>> > "I >>> > > will rape and murder (insert admin here)." What could possibly be >>> running >>> > > through his mind? And how can he be stopped? >>> > >>> > If he's making threats of violence and stalking then you should >>> > contact his local police. They'll probably at least discuss it with >>> > him and he'll either stop or eventually criminal proceedings will >>> > occur. Doesn't sound like there's any other option. >>> > >>> > Forensic analysis of his computer could doubtless prove it was him >>> > doing this, not his mother who shares the same IP. >>> > >>> > You could also contact his ISP. It puts them in a bad light to have >>> > someone like that on their networks and nearly always violates T&C- >>> > they might well want to terminate his service. But he'll probably >>> > just >>> > get another ISP; but depending on where he lives there might not be >>> > many ISPs in his area. >>> >>> >>> Perhaps the Foundation could send a cease-and-desist letter to both >>> her >>> and >>> him, cc the ISP? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -george william herbert >>> george.herbert(a)gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikiEN-l mailing list >>> WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://durova.blogspot.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >

From: "William King" <williamcarlking(a)gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:14 PM To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] JarlaxleArtemis/Grawp > I strongly agree. Something must be done very soon. I noticed just in > the > past hour or so on RC patrol, Grawp harassed a few more users. > > William King (Willking1979) > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Durova" <nadezhda.durova(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 5:24 PM > To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] JarlaxleArtemis/Grawp > >> There would be no shortage of people to sign a petition to the ISP, if >> you >> want to go that route. This has gone on long enough. >> >> -Durova >> >> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM, George Herbert >> <george.herbert(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Ian Woollard <ian.woollard(a)gmail.com >>> >wrote: >>> >>> > 2008/12/11 Fran Rogers <fran(a)nutmeg.ws>ws>: >>> > > Personally, I'm utterly bamboozled. This kid is nineteen years old >>> > > and >>> in >>> > > college; he's an adult, and he has his entire life ahead of him. >>> > > Yet he >>> > > still continues to anonymously threaten and harass people on the >>> > Internet, >>> > > even though he's clearly stepped into illegal territory, his >>> > > identity >>> is >>> > > known along with reams of evidence of his misdeeds connecting them >>> > > to >>> > him, >>> > > and his parent upon whom he's still dependent has been alerted. >>> > > And >>> > > he >>> > still >>> > > soldiers on, using Mom's broadband to move pages on Wikipedia to >>> > > titles >>> > "I >>> > > will rape and murder (insert admin here)." What could possibly be >>> running >>> > > through his mind? And how can he be stopped? >>> > >>> > If he's making threats of violence and stalking then you should >>> > contact his local police. They'll probably at least discuss it with >>> > him and he'll either stop or eventually criminal proceedings will >>> > occur. Doesn't sound like there's any other option. >>> > >>> > Forensic analysis of his computer could doubtless prove it was him >>> > doing this, not his mother who shares the same IP. >>> > >>> > You could also contact his ISP. It puts them in a bad light to have >>> > someone like that on their networks and nearly always violates T&C- >>> > they might well want to terminate his service. But he'll probably >>> > just >>> > get another ISP; but depending on where he lives there might not be >>> > many ISPs in his area. >>> >>> >>> Perhaps the Foundation could send a cease-and-desist letter to both >>> her >>> and >>> him, cc the ISP? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -george william herbert >>> george.herbert(a)gmail.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikiEN-l mailing list >>> WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://durova.blogspot.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >