--- David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
I just saved [[WP:VFD]] as of a few minutes ago. The HTML alone is 1,324,734 bytes. The associated files are 28,964 bytes.
I have a Pentium II 450MHz with 768MB memory running Netscape 7.2. It takes a minute or two just for the page to render.
So to vote on VFD, you must have a broadband connection - anyone on dialup is pretty much barred - and preferably be browsing with an Athlon 64. Or maybe a Cray.
Here's one suggestion: make the main VFD page just links to the day pages, rather than transcluding every one of them.
Nonsense. I have a dialup connection and have little problem working with the VfD page.
RickK
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I would like to start cleaning up [[Category:Move to Wiktionary]]. I plan to create entries in Wiktionary, if they don't already exist, or remove the template if it is not appropriate. What I'd like to know if it possible to speedy delete the item, if it's been moved? Although this is not a candidate by definition, it has already been established that Wikipedia is not a dictionary. I understand that some topics have the potential to become encyclopedic (what doesn't, really), but items that are moved and deleted can always be recreated if someone truly wishes to make an article on the subject. I'm also aware that we're not running out of paper, but I don't think cleaning things up a bit is a bad thing either. Personally, I get annoyed when I click on a live link, hoping to find some decent info on a trivial subject, but only getting a definition. Although each item could be nominated on VfD, that would quickly overload the page, and make it a lot of work for people who maintain it, not the mention the additional work involved in creating the subpage and listing it. I'm aware some entries get greatly expanded when VfD'ed, but this isn't easy when the article only contains a dicdef. Therefore, can the deletion policy be amended to include obvious dictionary definitions?
--jag23
Olivier Bilodeau stated for the record:
I would like to start cleaning up [[Category:Move to Wiktionary]]. I plan to create entries in Wiktionary, if they don't already exist, or remove the template if it is not appropriate. What I'd like to know if it possible to speedy delete the item, if it's been moved?
The definition of "move" includes the fact that, once the movee is ''there'', it is no longer ''here''. (Cf. [[Pauli exclusion principle]], [[Buckaroo Banzai location principle]].)
If you were to add the articles to Wiktionary and not delete them from Wikipedia, you would not have ''moved'' them, you would have ''copied'' them.
Rick wrote:
--- David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
I just saved [[WP:VFD]] as of a few minutes ago. The HTML alone is 1,324,734 bytes. The associated files are 28,964 bytes.
I have a Pentium II 450MHz with 768MB memory running Netscape 7.2. It takes a minute or two just for the page to render.
So to vote on VFD, you must have a broadband connection - anyone on dialup is pretty much barred - and preferably be browsing with an Athlon 64. Or maybe a Cray.
Here's one suggestion: make the main VFD page just links to the day pages, rather than transcluding every one of them.
Nonsense. I have a dialup connection and have little problem working with the VfD page.
RickK
Really? I have broadband and I have lots of difficulty working with this page. Firefox and IE takes ages to render the darned thing.
TBSDY
csherlock@ljh.com.au said:
Really? I have broadband and I have lots of difficulty working with this page. Firefox and IE takes ages to render the darned thing.
lynx is your friend. :)
Seriously, though, I think we should do David's suggestion and have a page of links to nominations by day. This would be a very easy edit; the only difficulties would be explaining how it works and providing navs (if required) on each day page to the other days. It would be nice to have a "click here to move to next day" link.
csherlock@ljh.com.au wrote:
Rick wrote:
--- David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
I just saved [[WP:VFD]] as of a few minutes ago. The HTML alone is 1,324,734 bytes. The associated files are 28,964 bytes. Here's one suggestion: make the main VFD page just links to the day pages, rather than transcluding every one of them.
Nonsense. I have a dialup connection and have little problem working with the VfD page. RickK
Really? I have broadband and I have lots of difficulty working with this page. Firefox and IE takes ages to render the darned thing.
I've started a discussion here. No vote as yet, I want to see what the consensus is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Votes_for_deletion#VfD.27s_ridic...
Note that breaking it up into days will not alter the substance of the VFD process and may allow more people to participate, giving it more legitimacy.
- d.