This sounds like a personality conflict between two Wikipedians who can't communicate their feelings in a friendly manner. I don't know the parties involved BUT I know for SURE that the Wikipedia community as a whole is blameless. I suggest that the individuals settle their differences privately and leave the rest of us OUT of it.
On 9/28/05, TGGG85@aol.com TGGG85@aol.com wrote:
This sounds like a personality conflict between two Wikipedians who can't communicate their feelings in a friendly manner. I don't know the parties involved BUT I know for SURE that the Wikipedia community as a whole is blameless. I suggest that the individuals settle their differences privately and leave the rest of us OUT of it.
Actually, have a look at AN/I - Chris Hillman said he gave up and asked that the article be reverted to Sarfatti's favoured version and left so - which, of course, the community would not do. More to the point, while Hillman wrote the version that offended Sarfatti, many other editors were reverting to Hillman's version.
More to the point, if editors are threatened with lawsuits for making good faith attempts to write NPOV articles (which, given community support, it would appear that Hillman did) we can't just leave them out on their own. That would be great for community spirit - when someone threatens you were abandon you? Not a good precident.
Ian
On 9/29/05, Guettarda guettarda@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, have a look at AN/I - Chris Hillman said he gave up and asked that the article be reverted to Sarfatti's favoured version and left so - which, of course, the community would not do. More to the point, while Hillman wrote the version that offended Sarfatti, many other editors were reverting to Hillman's version.
More to the point, if editors are threatened with lawsuits for making good faith attempts to write NPOV articles (which, given community support, it would appear that Hillman did) we can't just leave them out on their own. That would be great for community spirit - when someone threatens you were abandon you? Not a good precident.
I missed most of the previous stuff, but this sounds insane. I agree with you. But is he suing in a COURT OF LAW in Trenton, New Jersey? Anyway, I suppose this is just another issue of the wiki idea having scaling problems.
Guettarda wrote:
More to the point, if editors are threatened with lawsuits for making good faith attempts to write NPOV articles (which, given community support, it would appear that Hillman did) we can't just leave them out on their own. That would be great for community spirit - when someone threatens you were abandon you? Not a good precident.
Indeed, we can imagine many corporations who would like their articles "improved", and legal threats against editors who add criticisms would be a convenient way to make that happen.
Stan
On 9/29/05, TGGG85@aol.com TGGG85@aol.com wrote:
This sounds like a personality conflict between two Wikipedians who can't communicate their feelings in a friendly manner. I don't know the parties involved BUT I know for SURE that the Wikipedia community as a whole is blameless. I suggest that the individuals settle their differences privately and leave the rest of us OUT of it.
It's a particular guy, Jack Sarfatti, who has made an over-the-top threat against MediaWiki Foundation. We don't get to "leave the rest of us out of it" because Hillman has done nothing wrong.