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From: Falcorian alex.public.account+ENWikiMailingList@gmail.com Subj: Re: [WikiEN-l] Biography of Living persons Date: Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:53 am Size: 450 bytes To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Scientia Potentia est < bibliomaniac_15@yahoo.com> wrote:
In the end, BLP is not one of our five pillars. The fact that we are an encyclopedia is.
bibliomaniac15
That pretty much says it all.
--Falcorian _______________________________________________
I'll put another "yes and hell yes" on that. Having reasonable BLP standards is great, but we passed "reasonable" many miles back. About time to bring it back to "Nothing unsourced or poorly sourced, no hatchet jobs, no pseudo-biographies that only cover the person'ss role in one event." We've gotten to the point of literal censorship on BLPs, where we're withholding relevant and well-sourced information like names, not because they can't be well-sourced (they can), but because of panic over "privacy." I've even been told, by someone who should know better, that BLP is more important than NPOV, and saw not a bit of outrage. BLP is a necessary beast, but it's well past time to get it back on the leash, and make sure that leash stays short. If it's gotten to the point we're worried about it over neutrality, that just hammers home the need for real and immediate reform.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
I've even been told, by someone who should know better, that BLP is more important than NPOV, and saw not a bit of outrage.
NPOV is a rule. BLP is about doing what's right.
Some people elevate rules over doing what's right. I'm not one of them.
2008/12/31 Ken Arromdee arromdee@rahul.net:
NPOV is a rule. BLP is about doing what's right. Some people elevate rules over doing what's right. I'm not one of them.
NPOV is more than a rule - it's the fundamental defining characteristic of what Wikipedia is.
If you really think NPOV is optional, Wikipedia is not the project for you.
- d.