On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:19:05 -0700, stevertigo wrote:

PS: Daniel, we know you read the digests, but would you please change the subject header in your replies to match the actual header of the thread? Thanks.

Yes, I try to, as part of the extensive copy-and-pasting I need to do when beginning a reply, in order to get a properly trimmed quote with an accurate attribution line; but, regrettably, I sometimes forget that last step of changing the subject line. This time, ironically, I did it properly, but this merely resulted in replacing one digest subject line with another!

My apologies for this netiquette failure, and I'll make my best attempt to do better in the future. Now, if only that would also be true of the several people on this list who invariably fullquote beneath their replies, sometimes building up a string of half a dozen or more untrimmed list footers that digest readers need to scroll through to get to the next message. And then there's the weirdest perversion of all, the properly trimmed quote interleaved with reply, followed by an untrimmed fullquote; I call this "doublequoting", not to be confused with the ASCII doublequote character with which I surround the word "doublequoting" here. I have more discussion of such quoting abberations here:

http://mailformat.dan.info/quoting/top-posting.html

Is there really, as alluded to in the replies last time I brought up the issue, a mail program or webmail interface that silently adds such a fullquote to the bottom of a message (whether or not the main body of the message includes interleaved quotes and replies), giving no indication to the writer that such an attachment is being made nor any ability to trim or remove it? Every mail interface I've ever encountered makes the quoted material visible and editable, though admittedly some (e.g., the iPhone) make it quite difficult to trim it (though the addition of cut/copy/paste capability on the iPhone in the 3.0 software upgrade a few months ago brought it from "almost impossible" to "kind of hard but do-able").