"Cool Cat" wrote I problem non-working You are projecting some sort of false dichotomy here. If the issue is newbies creating unsuitable categories, there are certainly solutions that fall short of proposals that every category creation has to go through some process/discussion. For example, you could theoretically say that you have to edit for a month before starting on creating new categories. The idea that all editors, however experienced, competent, informed and responsible, should be penalised by a bureaucratic ruleset, because you detect some issues (which may not actually be very new), is not likely to gain general support, is it? The formation of policy is supposed to help the project; not to solve management issues in a heavy-handed way. I think people in touch with the realities of editing at WP understand when it is you need to discuss stuff, and when you just go ahead. That has always been one of the salient points. Perhaps someone should put a post-it note on WP:BOLD saying 'still relevant in 2007'. Charles ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l