The problem with Jayjg continues. Here is one of many diffs were Jayjg falsely accuses "Reform leaders" as viewing Orthodox Jews as being 9/11 like terrorists who destroyed the World Trade Center and damaged the Pentagon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Relationship_between_segments_of_...

Yet they never said this. As this next few links will show, this was not the position of the "Reform leadership", but instead came from now-proven misquotes of Rabbi Uri Regev. The newspaper editor who first wrote about Regev's words was publicly forced to retract her claims. Columbia University Journalism School Professor Ari Goldman called the original story, which misrepresented Rabbi Regev, �irresponsible journalism� and that it violated several basic principles of journalism regarding quoting people.

Note that Regev has made quotes explicitly denying the beliefs incorrectly attributed to him. Similarly, the leadership of Reform Judaism disavows any such beliefs. (And having full access to their rabbinic journals and websites, I can verify this.)

Thus, Jayjg has no source for his claim; he refuses to insert actual quotes from the Reform leadership and instead Jayjg is copying the claims from one Avi Shafran. Here are the links which prove Jayjg's position is false:

Editor admits manufacturing Uri Regev's anti-haredi quotes

http://www.jewishsf.com/bk011130/us19.shtml

Paper �Clarifies� Reform Leader�s Remarks Cleveland Jewish News editor acknowledges that Israeli rabbi never compared haredim with Islamic terrorists

http://www.jewishweek.org/news/newscontent.php3?artid=5379

Unfortunately, Jayjg is not letting facts get in his way. He is intent on painting Reform Jews as viewing Orthodox Jews as terrorists and murderers. Jayjg is repeating the claims of Avi Shafran. Shafran is obviously not a good primary source for the beliefs of Reform Judaism, as (A) he is not a Reform Jew, and (B) he has publicly stated that Reform rabbis deserve to be killed for their heresy. (See previous messages for quotes and source.)

Let me give an analogy: There are people who hate George W. Bush, and who think that he wants to kill all Muslims, and that George W. Bush deserves to die. (They are wrong, but whatever). The point is that we do not quote such people when we want to accurately represent George W. Bush's views. Rather, we quote and summarize George W. Bush and his official spokespeople. (And of course, we quote and summarize the views of groups that disagree with him.)

We never quote the views of those people who hate George W. Bush, and present them AS IF they were Bush's own views! That is intellectually dishonest; it is fraud. However, that is precisely the problem with some of Jayjg's edits in recent days. This is unfortunate, because until recently Jayjg has been a valuble contributor. I got along fine with him on many other articles, and we never reverted each other's edits.

Until a few days ago, I never saw Jayjg make false claims, but now he is going on a tear. He is doing the same thing in regards to other people and groups, which I can document if you wish. The point is that something on his side has changed, and I don't know what, or why. But we cannot allow people to insert false information bordering on libel into our articles.

Robert (RK)

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