Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 04:45:29 -0000 From: "Zahd" owl@spaz.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Trivial hatnotes or two-article disambiguations To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: twig.1217479529.73923@spaz.org

RFC: I'm having a little throw with someone named David over the usage of hatnotes and whether or not to disambiguate. On the [[sola scriptura]] article, there's a hatnote which points "for the [[Neal Morse]] album [[Sola Scriptura (album)]]." I removed this hatnote in favor of a standard otheruses disambig. The principle here is that the article's substance is more *substantial than the tangential, and relatively speaking, trivial, hatnote on top.

David thinks this is some kind of specious subjectivity - that noone can state whether articles are more or less trivial than others - and in any case two-article disambiguations are just wrong. I hope others here feel differently.

-Zahd

Triviality is subjective. I do not see celebrity gossip as important. People with nothing to do but absorb that stuff probably do care about what happens to famous rockstars.

The same is with articles. Unless we can agree upon a standard (i.e., the longest article should link to the disambig), this should not happen. I think that if two or more subjects are named the same thing, the name (w/o parentheses) should redirect to a disambiguation page.

For example: [[Foo]] should be a redirect to [[Foo (disambiguation)]]. That page should be a disambiguation page that would link to three articles:

* [[Foo (terminology)]] * [[Foo (magazine)]] * [[Foo (song)]]

This discussion should take place in a setting such as the village pump, on-wiki. It would be more convenient, if we want to have a consensus discussion for a standard proposal. However, for technical reasons, I cannot edit Wikipedia (blocked) .

Thoughts?

Jonas