Hi all- on the Anarchism talk page jack lynch has stated;
"External links within the article are against wiki policy."
To which I replied;
"PS. Where is it wiki policy not to use external links in articles? I always thought citations were a standard way of referencing, if it is policy it should be changed forthwith."
Which admit I wrote whilst feeling a bit snotty towards this individual, however, I've never seen anything which says external links are against 'policy', I use them all the time in much the same way i'd use citations, and can't see what's wrong here, please can i have some clarification from the rest of the community.
Personally i'd like to see MORE external links/citations, and was even thinking of proposing a feature for including citations or attributiuons within articles (for example, I've used some stuff that has been told go me personally by people (ie, by ex-members of Crass for the Crass article, which can't be verified by Google, but is none the less useful and encylopedic (or even vice versa- Micheal claimed someone from Crass was in a band called Trapeze- google verified this because someone else had written it on a dodgy unresearched website, but my primary source (ie, the people themselves) confirmed it was bollocks. Iyt would be nice to have a 'citation' feature that linked to quoted sources, much as the end of a chapter in an academic book has a 'notes' section at the end...
Cheers Graham burnett (quercus robur)
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--- Graham Burnett grahamburnett@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Iyt would be nice to have a
'citation' feature that linked to quoted sources, much as the end of a chapter in an academic book has a 'notes' section at the end...
put them at the bottom of the article, under Extternal links, under References. Then reference them in the text as you would in a english composition class paper.
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Graham Burnett wrote:
"External links within the article are against wiki policy."
Earlier today I used external links in an article, but I didn't really like it. And I found myself doing something really bad -- but I caught myself.
I wrote something like...
In [http://www.whatever.com/ this article], so-and-so says such-and-such.
that's really bad because when the content is repurposed, that sentence will make no sense at all.
--Jimbo
On Jan 9, 2004, at 10:36 PM, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Graham Burnett wrote:
"External links within the article are against wiki policy."
Earlier today I used external links in an article, but I didn't really like it. And I found myself doing something really bad -- but I caught myself.
I wrote something like...
In [http://www.whatever.com/ this article], so-and-so says such-and-such.
that's really bad because when the content is repurposed, that sentence will make no sense at all.
Sure, but "So-and-so says such-and-such [http://www.whatever.com/]." will make perfect sense once it's been repurposed. Citation-type links are parenthetical and can simply be removed; the content just loses a little credibility. If any information about the context of the referenced material is useful to the reader of the article (who wrote it, where it was published, etc.), this information ought to be in the article anyway. Readers should not be expected to follow the link to understand the reference, only for the full story.
When such content is repurposed it may be appropriate to move this link to an equivalent of an "External links" section, but this can be done without garbling the text. Putting it there on the wiki version just makes the context of the reference unclear and confuses the reader.
Peter
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Graham Burnett a écrit:
Hi all- on the Anarchism talk page jack lynch has stated;
"External links within the article are against wiki policy."
To which I replied;
"PS. Where is it wiki policy not to use external links in articles? I always thought citations were a standard way of referencing, if it is policy it should be changed forthwith."
Most of the time, the links are at the bottom of the article. Sometimes, I think it is best that the links are within the text for clarity.
I do not think there is a policy for links inside the text. If there is one, let's change it Quercus ! (or decide not to follow it :-))