Dear Mr. Moeller! I asked you to erase my talk page which you reverted even though I erased some of it as invited sysop. Instead of doing it you threat me now you will leave it up longer and even blocked it, opend the ugly content of [[user:Mbecker]] discussions and threat me that only if I voluntarily let go of the sysop status you will open the "protection". If you think you can take these liberties as a developer and act accordingly I ask you hereby to immediately erase the whole user:kils page or immediately give me back my sysop status so I can do it. I am not willing to appear in a project which hosts images like the clitoris.jpg on http://www.wikipedia.org/upload/archive/1/19/20030520015715! Clitoris.jpg , which is a clear conflict with USA pornography law, probably even copyright law. This image has been mounted by your partner Michael Becker [[user:Mbecker]] who made a motion to ban our viking project. After I read as administrator that six users on the sysop mailing list requested to ban viking I did what they asked me for as sysop. As soon as the pornographic content is gone and some other pages are edited to be within the rules again I might discuss with BOMIS CEO about a further cooperation as editor and the reason for the pause. Sincerely yours Dr. Uwe Kils [[User:Kils|Kils]] 03:28 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)
------------------------- Dr. Uwe Kils 161 South Concord Terrace 08205 Galloway New Jersey USA kils@comcast.net 001 609 748 9693
Uwe et al.-
I asked you to erase my talk page
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See my response on
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk%3AEloquence
Regards,
Erik
Uwe Kils wrote in part:
As soon as the pornographic content is gone and some other pages are edited to be within the rules again I might discuss with BOMIS CEO about a further cooperation as editor and the reason for the pause. Sincerely yours Dr. Uwe Kils [[User:Kils|Kils]] 03:28 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Given the Vikings' penchant for appeals to authority, I'd like to hear Jimmy's opinion about all of this. The Vikings have sometimes implied that their here by special request and that their actions have been in "consultation" with important people.
-- Toby
Toby Bartels wrote:
Given the Vikings' penchant for appeals to authority, I'd like to hear Jimmy's opinion about all of this. The Vikings have sometimes implied that their here by special request and that their actions have been in "consultation" with important people.
Well, not with me. There's just no excuse for acting in the way that Kils/Viking have acted, particularly *as sysop*. The concern about this image has been raised on the mailing list, and is under an ongoing discussion. LittleDan has been very eloquent in representing one side of the debate, and others have joined in.
We have a process, it's a long and tedious process, but it does more or less work, and it's not good for someone to simply call 'sysop'.
Erik's actions were temporary in nature, and he was clear about that. He was concerned about this spinning out of control while I was not available (on the weekends, as usual, I try to have family time!). I support what he did in that context.
--Jimbo