In my memory ArbCom was the very last resort in an open commuunity. Now it seems to be a first resort for some.
Not good, however well-intentioned.
--C
----- Original Message ----- From: Snowspinner Snowspinner@mail.wikimedia.org To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Scared of the arbcom? FEARE YE NOTT! Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:38:47 -0600
If there are users who feel intimidated by the system to the point where they do not feel comfortable seeking dispute resolution, that is itself a problem. I am willing to help there.
Think of it as the AMA, only for a different kind of disadvantaged user.
-Snowspinner
On Mar 10, 2005, at 11:22 PM, Jim Cecropia wrote:
The issue is not Dr. Zen. The issue is not WHEELER. The issue is not 172.
The issue is that Wikipedia has made great progress toward shutting people up. The issue is that Wikipedia has made no progress toward editorial review or standards. The issue is that Snowspinner is soliciting cases against users people have grievances with.
My post was incendiary? Perhaps. My post was unacceptable? In your opinion. My post was inappropriate? I think not.
Luv, C.
----- Original Message ----- From: Rick giantsrick13@yahoo.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Scared of the arbcom? FEARE YE NOTT! Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:11:33 -0800 (PST)
--- Jim Cecropia jcecropia@mail.com wrote:
HEAR YE!! HEAR YE!!
This posting was entirely inappropriate.
Dr Zen has repeatedly deleted the image in violation of consensus, and indicates that he will continue to do so. Your posting to the mailing list is an unacceptable incendiary posting.
RickK
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I've noticed this. I see that Dr Zen never got an RFC and yet an arbcom dispute has been filed.
He was also blocked the other day and I had to unblock him. I'd like to know if the arbcom will be dealing with one issue, or many. If it's one issue I might suggest that they accepted this arb request to quickly.
TBSDY
Jim Cecropia wrote:
In my memory ArbCom was the very last resort in an open commuunity. Now it seems to be a first resort for some.
Not good, however well-intentioned.
--C
Jim Cecropia wrote:
In my memory ArbCom was the very last resort in an open commuunity. Now it seems to be a first resort for some. Not good, however well-intentioned.
At which point the AC generally says "go away, put in the effort to resolve this yourselves first."
Unfortunately, there's no way to keep people from bringing issues to RFAr way prematurely. However, we can and do reject them for this.
- d.