Please see [[Talk:John le Carr�]]. DW, in his latest incarnation as Black Widow, says:"I don't give two damns about your Wikipedia:Image use policy. This is a policy created by half a dozen people out of the thousands using Wikipedia. It has NO LEGAL OR BINDING STATUS. This is an open website. I am not obliged to provide you or anyone with a statement as to its copyright status, permission, or any other thing a few people decide they want. The only obligation (and this was clearly stated already in discussions with Mr. Wales re DMCA) is to tick the box required in order to upload. NO MORE NO LESS. Stop interfering with people who actually make a contribution here. What you are doing is illegal harassment and interference. If you have any questions about this matter, please take them up with the ONLY authority, Mr. Wales who pays the freight.User:Black Widow (copied to the group's Village Pump.) " If he's unwilling to follow the proper copyright procedures, he MUST be banned. Zoe
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Zoe wrote:
If he's unwilling to follow the proper copyright procedures, he MUST be banned.
Zoe
Agreed.
While I'm interested to hear what is illegal about the "harrassment" and "interference" they are suffering, I agree that people who get the Wikipedia in legal hot water should be banned until they decide to acknowledge the site rules and any laws we're governed by. --cprompt
As the "ONLY authority", Mr. Wales hereby declares that Black Widow is banned from wikipedia for blatant disregard of policy and rude behavior. "She" can take it up with me if she chooses to do so.
--Jimbo
Zoe wrote:
Please see [[Talk:John le Carré]]. DW, in his latest incarnation as Black Widow, says:"I don't give two damns about your Wikipedia:Image use policy. This is a policy created by half a dozen people out of the thousands using Wikipedia. It has NO LEGAL OR BINDING STATUS. This is an open website. I am not obliged to provide you or anyone with a statement as to its copyright status, permission, or any other thing a few people decide they want. The only obligation (and this was clearly stated already in discussions with Mr. Wales re DMCA) is to tick the box required in order to upload. NO MORE NO LESS. Stop interfering with people who actually make a contribution here. What you are doing is illegal harassment and interference. If you have any questions about this matter, please take them up with the ONLY authority, Mr. Wales who pays the freight.User:Black Widow (copied to the group's Village Pump.) " If he's unwilling to follow the proper copyright procedures, he MUST be banned! . Zoe
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I know what I'm saying will be said posthumously, but I don't think Black Widow is nessessarilly DW. Black Widow just misunderstood the policies page. If you're going to ban people for one copywright offence, then you'll ban half the people on wikipedia (minus the sysops, possibly). Many people haven't even read the policy page. For those who do, like Black Widow, it should be written that if these policies are broken, you risk being banned. Right now, it looks more like a suggestions page. Although most of it should be, the copywright information looks the same. I've reorganized some of the page, putting copywrights at the top, but I still think the page needs to be more authoritative. I also protected the image policy page. The image policy page is very important (if we get sued, it'll probably be from a picture) and shouldn't be changed by someone without some kind of authority.
zoecomnena@yahoo.com wrote:Please see [[Talk:John le Carr�]]. DW, in his latest incarnation as Black Widow, says:"I don't give two damns about your [[Wikipedia:Image use policy]]. This is a policy created by half a dozen people out of the thousands using Wikipedia. It has NO LEGAL OR BINDING STATUS. This is an open website. I am not obliged to provide you or anyone with a statement as to its copyright status, permission, or any other thing a few people decide they want. The only obligation (and this was clearly stated already in discussions with Mr. Wales re [[DMCA]]) is to tick the box required in order to upload. NO MORE NO LESS. Stop interfering with people who actually make a contribution here. What you are doing is illegal harassment and interference. If you have any questions about this matter, please take them up with the ONLY authority, Mr. Wales who pays the freight.[[User:Black Widow]] (copied to the group's [[Village Pump]].) " If he's unwilling to follow the proper copyright procedures, he MUST be banned. Zoe
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Daniel Ehrenberg wrote:
I know what I'm saying will be said posthumously, but I don't think Black Widow is nessessarilly DW.
I agree that this isn't known with certainty. Black Widow claims to be DW's wife.
The problem here isn't a "single copyright violation" but a pattern of disruptive and hostile behavior. As always, DW and Black Widow are free to write to me to talk about reinstatement, but a drop of the general level of hostility and quasi-legalistic threatening tone would be the very first requirement.
Frankly, I have a difficult time grasping what motivates people to act that way.
--Jimbo