User:147.72.93.172/147.72.93.199 has for some time been a troublesome presence on the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review article. He has made some valid points, but they are lost amid a torrent of claims of libel, legal threats, and general rudeness. Earlier today he removed a large amount of material from Talk:Pittsburgh Tribune-Review without archiving and replaced it with the words "Edited to allow more space." I reverted and asked him not to do it again on his user talk page. He blanked the entire page this time. I warned him against vandalism and reverted. Another blank, another warning. I blocked at the third blanking of the talk page.
He has long claimed nearly everything someone posts to the article or the talk page is libelous in some form or another. I am surprised to learn from the headers of the email David Gerard forwarded that apparently the anon is Carl Prine, an award winning PTR reporter. One would think a reporter wouldn't throw around accusations of libel so casually. In any case, much of the material is standard talk page arguing, and the material removed includes a lengthy polite attempt by User:KeithTyler to reason with Prine, something that I can't imagine any reasonable person objecting to.
- Gamaliel
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Rob wrote:
He has long claimed nearly everything someone posts to the article or the talk page is libelous in some form or another. I am surprised to learn from the headers of the email David Gerard forwarded that apparently the anon is Carl Prine, an award winning PTR reporter. One would think a reporter wouldn't throw around accusations of libel so casually.
Since you have the real name, it might be worthwhile simply to call him on the phone and ask why he's doing this - or, to be really evil, call his editor on the phone. To be truly diabolic though, call the editor of a *competing* paper, heh-heh-heh.
WP isn't an 800-pound gorilla yet, but it's at least 300 pounds, and we shouldn't be letting self-important reporters push us around.
Stan
Hello.
Actually, I would welcome a call. I was asked to post that email because the original editor was "blocked" (I don't understand the whole procedure), and she felt I had been wronged in the past and that I would take action on her behalf.
If she can appeal for help on her own, then no one needs me to do so, and I will gladly get out of the Wiki complaints business.
While I might be a "self-important reporter," I was simply posting for a young colleague. A few minutes of searching and I found a person, Jimmy Donal Wales, who can talk to her.
I am not a contributor to Wiki. I have never threatened anyone with libel proceedings, and I am bemused that Corrinne's attempts to edit a page on an Internet site set about this chain of events.
Most sincerely,
Carl Prine
-----Original Message----- From: wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org [mailto:wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org] On Behalf Of Stan Shebs Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 6:05 PM To: English Wikipedia Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Fwd: Block
Rob wrote:
He has long claimed nearly everything someone posts to the article or the talk page is libelous in some form or another. I am surprised to learn from the headers of the email David Gerard forwarded that apparently the anon is Carl Prine, an award winning PTR reporter. One would think a reporter wouldn't throw around accusations of libel so casually.
Since you have the real name, it might be worthwhile simply to call him on the phone and ask why he's doing this - or, to be really evil, call his editor on the phone. To be truly diabolic though, call the editor of a *competing* paper, heh-heh-heh.
WP isn't an 800-pound gorilla yet, but it's at least 300 pounds, and we shouldn't be letting self-important reporters push us around.
Stan
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