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Nope, debian linux with KDE.
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 05:11:43AM -0800, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Brion Vibber wrote:
Nope, debian linux with KDE.
AltGr+apostrophe, e
What is 'AltGr'? Is that the one naive people like me call "the Windows key"?
The right-hand Alt key.
Jason Williams wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 05:11:43AM -0800, Jimmy Wales wrote:
Brion Vibber wrote:
Nope, debian linux with KDE.
AltGr+apostrophe, e
What is 'AltGr'? Is that the one naive people like me call "the Windows key"?
AFAIK US keyboards don't have it
Tarquin wrote:
Jason Williams wrote:
Jimmy Wales wrote:
What is 'AltGr'? Is that the one naive people like me call "the Windows key"?
The right-hand Alt key.
AFAIK US keyboards don't have it
I'm sitting at a US keyboard now (made by Sun) that has it. Probably most keyboards on Linux boxes don't have it, since they use standard keyboards with few neat keys -- maybe even a Micro$oft one that certainly has no AltGr.
But Jason's response suggests that Linux is often set up when using these keyboards to that the right-hand Alt key will run as AltGr. I never heard that, but maybe it's so.
That said, even my Sun isn't set up to use AltGr this way. What I use instead is the greatest key in the world, Compose. If you have no Compose key, then your keyboard suxors ^_^.
-- Toby
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 21:20:35 -0800, Toby Bartels toby+wikipedia@math.ucr.edu wrote:
Tarquin wrote:
Jason Williams wrote:
Jimmy Wales wrote:
What is 'AltGr'? Is that the one naive people like me call "the Windows key"?
The right-hand Alt key.
AFAIK US keyboards don't have it
I'm sitting at a US keyboard now (made by Sun) that has it. Probably most keyboards on Linux boxes don't have it, since they use standard keyboards with few neat keys -- maybe even a Micro$oft one that certainly has no AltGr.
But Jason's response suggests that Linux is often set up when using these keyboards to that the right-hand Alt key will run as AltGr. I never heard that, but maybe it's so.
That said, even my Sun isn't set up to use AltGr this way. What I use instead is the greatest key in the world, Compose. If you have no Compose key, then your keyboard suxors ^_^.
The right-hand ALt key is indeed the AltGr key when you switch to many European keyboard layouts, and on windows it's action is mimiced by Ctrl- Alt. Which is why it is bad for an application to use Ctrl-Alt-key shortcuts. (Opera had this problem until they disabled all Ctrl-Alt shortcuts in form fields.