As has been pointed out here, it is likely that many of the "keep" votes on a certain VfD page were made at the prompting of the lowlife Nazi scum at Stormfront. This is highly regretable, and personally upsetting to people like me who voted "keep" for reasons which I believe to be legitimate.
I'd just like to point out that before Stormfront started lobbying for votes many people were alerted to the page via the large mailing list which a certain Wikipedian maintains for just this purpose, and it is reasonable to assume that many of the "delete" votes came from recipients of that mailing.
All of which shows that the concept of "consensus" in VfD is all but meaningless.
Zero.
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From: zero 0000 nought_0000@yahoo.com As has been pointed out here, it is likely that many of the "keep" votes on a certain VfD page were made at the prompting of the lowlife Nazi scum at Stormfront. This is highly regretable, and personally upsetting to people like me who voted "keep" for reasons which I believe to be legitimate.
As I pointed out earlier on the relevant Talk: page, Zero0000 made compelling arguments why the article should be kept. Unfortunately, he was the only "keep" voter who did so, and most of the rest of the "keep" arguments actually indicated why the article should be deleted.
And the antics of one particular long-time editor and Keep voter, in trying to rig the vote page, then accusing some editors who have been on Wikipedia for months of being sockpuppets, then trying disqualify the Delete votes on the grounds that putting in some Google links to usage of the term meant the article had changed enough that their votes no longer applied, and finally to immediately putting it up for undeletion, have done the Keep side no good.
I'd just like to point out that before Stormfront started lobbying for votes many people were alerted to the page via the large mailing list which a certain Wikipedian maintains for just this purpose, and it is reasonable to assume that many of the "delete" votes came from recipients of that mailing.
All of which shows that the concept of "consensus" in VfD is all but meaningless.
Not quite. I'm not sure the exact mathematical formula for "consensus", but I figure it has something to do with number of editors, their contribution to Wikipedia, and how trusted they are. With that in mind, I did a little bit of obsessive statistical analysis on the vote, and discovered the following:
The 49 Delete voters averaged 4759 edits each, and included 13 administrators (27%). On the other hand, the 27 Keep voters averaged 1715 votes each, and included only 2 administrators (7%).
What if you pull out all the "questionable" votes? I don't know who is on that list you mention, but let's say we remove those voters with fewer than 75 edits? Well, you find that the remaining 43 Delete voters (30% of them administrators) averaged 5417 edits each, vs. 13 Keep voters (15% of them administrators) averating 3553 edits each.
From what I can see, that's actually a pretty strong consensus among
significant Wikipedia contributors to delete.
On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 13:11:18 -0500, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
On the other hand, the 27 Keep voters averaged 1715 votes each...
This is waaay impressive!