Yes, I know that Mr. Wales ruled that I should not reply (to the list)
in this case, but he should at least allow a brief reply since my proof
had already been posted here.
Here is a quick top-post definition of an "intrinsic property":
A physical property that is not observer-dependent (or does not
vary with an observer's point of view). For example, a clock's
intrinsic rhythm is given by its internal atomic vibrations.
----RR----(end of reply)
From: Dante Alighieri
Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Subject: [WikiEN-l] Mr. Royce and SR
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:17:38 -0700
At 12:01 PM 9/29/2003, you wrote:
At this point, although we have not answered our
about what was physically happening in these three cases, we have
answered the question about what was _not_ happening in these cases,
which means that we have answered the important question Does SR
pertain to physically real (or intrinsic) characteristics? And we
have found that the answer to this question is No. This tells us all
we need to know in order to prove our main point that SR does not
pertain to the equivalence of real mass with real energy (which is
of course stated explicitly by the equation E=mc^2).
Mr. Royce, could you please define what you mean by "real" in the sense
that you've used it in your "proof"? You say "real clock rhythm",
mass", and "real energy", but don't fully define those terms. Perhaps
root of the misunderstanding here is a difference in word usage? Maybe
people on the list are missing your fundamental point because they aren't
using the same words to mean the same things...
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their
neutrality in times of great moral crisis."
-Dante Alighieri, 1265-1321
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