Yes, I know that Mr. Wales ruled that I should not reply (to the list) in this case, but he should at least allow a brief reply since my proof had already been posted here.
Here is a quick top-post definition of an "intrinsic property": A physical property that is not observer-dependent (or does not vary with an observer's point of view). For example, a clock's intrinsic rhythm is given by its internal atomic vibrations.
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From: Dante Alighieri dalighieri@digitalgrapefruit.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Mr. Royce and SR Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:17:38 -0700
At 12:01 PM 9/29/2003, you wrote:
At this point, although we have not answered our original question about what was physically happening in these three cases, we have answered the question about what was _not_ happening in these cases, which means that we have answered the important question Does SR pertain to physically real (or intrinsic) characteristics? And we have found that the answer to this question is No. This tells us all we need to know in order to prove our main point that SR does not pertain to the equivalence of real mass with real energy (which is of course stated explicitly by the equation E=mc^2).
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Mr. Royce, could you please define what you mean by "real" in the sense that you've used it in your "proof"? You say "real clock rhythm", "real mass", and "real energy", but don't fully define those terms. Perhaps the root of the misunderstanding here is a difference in word usage? Maybe people on the list are missing your fundamental point because they aren't using the same words to mean the same things...
Dante Alighieri dalighieri@digitalgrapefruit.com
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of great moral crisis." -Dante Alighieri, 1265-1321
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