Sadly, Rhobite is, for the most part, right about Reithy; though I agree with Jimbo that threatening to write to a record label regarding album art hardly rises to the level of a "legal threat."
Reithy joined us three weeks ago and has made over 500 edits.
The edits have been to roughly a dozen articles, most of them related to [[United States Libertarian Party]], to talk pages of these articles and those who oppose his edits, and to RFC/RFA related pages where he has answered (after a fashion) various complaints about his behavior.
There really is no reason we should have to go through the slow, deliberate [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]] process with someone who has never been a good-faith contributor to the project. The safeguards present therein are intended to provide a means of cooling off for Wikipedians who have contributed in the past and are likely to do so in the future.
The present arbitration framework is serving to do nothing but give this joker another soapbox. Rhobite is being subject to undue scrutiny as a result of his conflict with Reithy, and I imagine that the AC will, in an effort to be evenhanded and "fair" find a bone to pick with one or another of his comments or edit summaries.
If Reithy is banned, as seems likely to occur at some point, I imagine he'll return with an army of sockpuppets, and those admins who seek out fairness to accused sockpuppets will revert any attempts to block them.
This isn't some obscure corner of the 'pedia, folks, like [[Iridology]] or [[Instructional capital]].
This is about the article on one of the largest minor political parties in U.S. politics, on the 300th largest web site in the world.
Is it time to do something about bad-faith users yet?
UninvitedCompany
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 14:52:39 -0700, uninvited@nerstrand.net uninvited@nerstrand.net wrote:
Sadly, Rhobite is, for the most part, right about Reithy; though I agree with Jimbo that threatening to write to a record label regarding album art hardly rises to the level of a "legal threat."
Reithy joined us three weeks ago and has made over 500 edits.
The edits have been to roughly a dozen articles, most of them related to [[United States Libertarian Party]], to talk pages of these articles and those who oppose his edits, and to RFC/RFA related pages where he has answered (after a fashion) various complaints about his behavior.
There really is no reason we should have to go through the slow, deliberate [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution]] process with someone who has never been a good-faith contributor to the project. The safeguards present therein are intended to provide a means of cooling off for Wikipedians who have contributed in the past and are likely to do so in the future.
The present arbitration framework is serving to do nothing but give this joker another soapbox. Rhobite is being subject to undue scrutiny as a result of his conflict with Reithy, and I imagine that the AC will, in an effort to be evenhanded and "fair" find a bone to pick with one or another of his comments or edit summaries.
If Reithy is banned, as seems likely to occur at some point, I imagine he'll return with an army of sockpuppets, and those admins who seek out fairness to accused sockpuppets will revert any attempts to block them.
This isn't some obscure corner of the 'pedia, folks, like [[Iridology]] or [[Instructional capital]].
This is about the article on one of the largest minor political parties in U.S. politics, on the 300th largest web site in the world.
Is it time to do something about bad-faith users yet?
UninvitedCompany
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uc, thanks for the support. I don't know how the AC works but I also wouldn't be surprised if they found some fault with me - I admit I have used confrontational language with Reithy, but only after he started revert warring on my talk page and complaining loudly about "Rhobitegate" and "The Dying Days of Rhobite's Administration." I'll own up, he pissed me off a little bit.
The copyright thing may not have been a legal threat but it's just one instance of insinuation by Reithy which establishes a pattern of threats. This dispute also involves [[User:Chuck F]], who unfortunately has edited from two IP addresses. Reithy ran a WHOIS on the IPs, and has taken to editing articles about the institutions who own the IPs. He believes Chuck lives at one of these institutions, and has posted its name a couple times: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Chuck_F&diff=705148...
AdamBishop did block Reithy last night for 24 hours, after he repeatedly edited my user page. This marks the second time he has been blocked for vandalism.
Rhobite
It's very sad to see a really nice person (Rhobite) abused like this.
I was involved in an earlier RFC with Rhobite and saw nothing but polite and constructive efforts on his part.
It is not right that ill-intentioned users can prey on other user's (nearly) infinite patience and respect for due process.
Duk
uc, thanks for the support. I don't know how the AC works but I also wouldn't be surprised if they found some fault with me - I admit I have used confrontational language with Reithy, but only after he started revert warring on my talk page and complaining loudly about "Rhobitegate" and "The Dying Days of Rhobite's Administration." I'll own up, he pissed me off a little bit.
Rhobite
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uninvited@nerstrand.net wrote:
This isn't some obscure corner of the 'pedia, folks, like [[Iridology]] or [[Instructional capital]].
This is about the article on one of the largest minor political parties in U.S. politics, on the 300th largest web site in the world.
Your POV is showing. The second part is true in itself, but the comparison with two other ideas merits mentioning. Controversial as it may be , iridology does have a certain following. Many of these might place the Libertarian Party in an obscure corner. It is a matter of pure speculation for the followers of the one to say that the followers of the other are in an obscure corner.
Instructional capital is probably less well known, but that is probably only because econo-social theories in general attract less attention.
Ec