Recently, enwiki was apparently moved without warning to a new server. This caused the external toolserver to be unable to perform any analysis of enwiki information. One of the major users of toolserver is Gmaxwell, who performs several different beneficial processes using the toolserver.
He has posted to WikiTech-L explaining what happened and what the effects are: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2006-April/034904.html
There is also an essay forming at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Toolserver
I urge everyone to visit one or both of the above links to learn more and to express your support for getting the situation resolved.
Johntex.
John Tex wrote:
Recently, enwiki was apparently moved without warning to a new server. This caused the external toolserver to be unable to perform any analysis of enwiki information. One of the major users of toolserver is Gmaxwell, who performs several different beneficial processes using the toolserver.
He has posted to WikiTech-L explaining what happened and what the effects are: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2006-April/034904.html
There is also an essay forming at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Toolserver
I urge everyone to visit one or both of the above links to learn more and to express your support for getting the situation resolved.
Johntex.
The tools at tools.wikimedia.de were not only used by the English Wikipedia, however. Things like the user edit count and Duesentrieb's CategoryTree tool were used by other language editions, as evidenced by the number of translations for CategoryTree.[1]
At the Vietnamese Wikipedia, the most popular user infobox linked to interiot's edit counter,[2] and the CategoryTree tool was even built right into the category structure there,[3] via a "cây" ("tree") link in every category page that contained subcategories.
tools.wikimedia.org is currently timing out for me, but I hope that it won't be down for any extended period of time. Although the English Wikipedia certainly accounts for a large chunk of the Toolserver's usage, other language editions -- which still worked just fine with the tools there -- will find it odd that the tools have just suddenly vanished.
If it has been disabled, please consider restoring access to these valuable tools; even though they don't yet work for the English Wikipedia or the Asian cluster wikis, there are a number of wikis that could still benefit from this service.
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Duesentrieb/CategoryTree [2] http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti%C3%AAu_b%E1%BA%A3n:T%C3%B3m_t%E1%BA%AFt_v%E1... [3] http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%E1%BB%83_lo%E1%BA%A1i:T%E1%BA%A5t_c%E1%BA%A3
On 4/20/06, Minh Nguyen mxn@zoomtown.com wrote:
tools.wikimedia.org is currently timing out for me, but I hope that it won't be down for any extended period of time. Although the English Wikipedia certainly accounts for a large chunk of the Toolserver's usage, other language editions -- which still worked just fine with the tools there -- will find it odd that the tools have just suddenly vanished.
The vandalism tool is still there. It is working on the English Wikipedia but English database replication has been down for a couple of weeks so recent data from that particular Wikipedia is missing from the tool server database (not a major problem for this particular tool) I've tested all the other languages the tool works in, and those databases are all up to date. Swedish, Norwegian, Spanish, Portuguese, Turkish, German, Polish, Italisn, and French.
I tested it yesterday and it worked well. Today response has been slow at times but it's still working.
On 4/20/06, John Tex johntexster@gmail.com wrote:
I urge everyone to visit one or both of the above links to learn more and to express your support for getting the situation resolved.
It should be noted that zedler (the toolserver) was apparently nearing its capacity already, in terms of disk space and ability to keep up with the task of database replication. The wikitech-l people have mentioned some technical fixes to get around the situation with enwiki being on a different cluster now, but the toolserver will still be an issue. It may be that more servers will have to be bought, or zedler upgraded, if the toolserver project is to keep running.
-- Stephen Bain stephen.bain@gmail.com
John Tex wrote:
Recently, enwiki was apparently moved without warning to a new server. This caused the external toolserver to be unable to perform any analysis of enwiki information. One of the major users of toolserver is Gmaxwell, who performs several different beneficial processes using the toolserver.
He has posted to WikiTech-L explaining what happened and what the effects are: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2006-April/034904.html
There is also an essay forming at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Toolserver
I urge everyone to visit one or both of the above links to learn more and to express your support for getting the situation resolved.
We're way ahead of you. To improve the administrative situation, two more people have been given root access: Gregory Maxwell (who you mention above) and DaB. Mark Bergsma will be installing a new external disk array within the next week, hopefully giving the toolserver enough disk space and power to replicate all databases. Please be patient.
It was down altogether for a few hours today. If I understand correctly, this was due to a planned reboot for maintenance and some subsequent problems getting it to come back up.
-- Tim Starling
On 4/20/06, Tim Starling t.starling@physics.unimelb.edu.au wrote:
John Tex wrote:
Recently, enwiki was apparently moved without warning to a new server. This caused the external toolserver to be unable to perform any analysis of enwiki information. One of the major users of toolserver is Gmaxwell, who performs several different beneficial processes using the toolserver.
He has posted to WikiTech-L explaining what happened and what the effects are: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2006-April/034904.html
There is also an essay forming at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Toolserver
I urge everyone to visit one or both of the above links to learn more and to express your support for getting the situation resolved.
We're way ahead of you. To improve the administrative situation, two more people have been given root access: Gregory Maxwell (who you mention above) and DaB. Mark Bergsma will be installing a new external disk array within the next week, hopefully giving the toolserver enough disk space and power to replicate all databases. Please be patient.
It was down altogether for a few hours today. If I understand correctly, this was due to a planned reboot for maintenance and some subsequent problems getting it to come back up.
When it is able to once again replicate all databases, will things like Interiot's tool start working properly? Or will the missed information be forever lost?
Jay.
On 21/04/06, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
When it is able to once again replicate all databases, will things like Interiot's tool start working properly? Or will the missed information be forever lost?
Which Interiot's tool exactly? The edit counter will work just as it always did. What information could be lost exactly?
Steve