One relatively brief day of adminning enwiki and I find myself blocking the sockpuppets of no fewer than three separate returning banned users. Hkelkar, Ararat arev, and BryanFromPalatine, if anyone's interested. Is this a normal experience for my fellow admins?
And do we do enough to keep banned users off Wikipedia? Should we chase them up in real life a little more? After all, I believe we do know who at least two out of the above three are. Wikipedia is hardly sinking under a deluge of banned users, but a little more proactiveness would be nice on this front. Is protecting articles from a specific user or IP range technically possible?
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On Friday 29 February 2008 11:43, Christiano Moreschi wrote:
One relatively brief day of adminning enwiki and I find myself blocking the sockpuppets of no fewer than three separate returning banned users. Hkelkar, Ararat arev, and BryanFromPalatine, if anyone's interested. Is this a normal experience for my fellow admins?
Just curious, but were they doing anything malicious, or were they honestly contributing in good faith? If it's the latter, so what if they've been declared "banned"...if they're not doing anything wrong leave them alone.
And do we do enough to keep banned users off Wikipedia? Should we chase them up in real life a little more?
Absolutely not.
After all, I believe we do know who at least two out of the above three are. Wikipedia is hardly sinking under a deluge of banned users, but a little more proactiveness would be nice on this front. Is protecting articles from a specific user or IP range technically possible?
The latter is totally unacceptable as a long-term solution.
All three were malicious, yes. Very much so. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#more_Arme... provides backgroud for my final suggested solution. Looks fairly harmless to me, at any rate. Is it technically possible?
CM Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.> From: kmw@armory.com> To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:45:56 -0600> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Is this normal?> > On Friday 29 February 2008 11:43, Christiano Moreschi wrote:> > One relatively brief day of adminning enwiki and I find myself blocking the> > sockpuppets of no fewer than three separate returning banned users.> > Hkelkar, Ararat arev, and BryanFromPalatine, if anyone's interested. Is> > this a normal experience for my fellow admins?> > Just curious, but were they doing anything malicious, or were they honestly > contributing in good faith? If it's the latter, so what if they've been > declared "banned"...if they're not doing anything wrong leave them alone.> > >> > And do we do enough to keep banned users off Wikipedia? Should we chase> > them up in real life a little more?> > Absolutely not.> > > After all, I believe we do know who at > > least two out of the above three are. Wikipedia is hardly sinking under a> > deluge of banned users, but a little more proactiveness would be nice on> > this front. Is protecting articles from a specific user or IP range> > technically possible?> > The latter is totally unacceptable as a long-term solution.> -- > Kurt Weber> kmw@armory.com> > _______________________________________________> WikiEN-l mailing list> WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l _________________________________________________________________ Share what Santa brought you https://www.mycooluncool.com
Kurt Maxwell Weber wrote:
On Friday 29 February 2008 11:43, Christiano Moreschi wrote:
One relatively brief day of adminning enwiki and I find myself blocking the sockpuppets of no fewer than three separate returning banned users. Hkelkar, Ararat arev, and BryanFromPalatine, if anyone's interested. Is this a normal experience for my fellow admins?
Just curious, but were they doing anything malicious, or were they honestly contributing in good faith? If it's the latter, so what if they've been declared "banned"...if they're not doing anything wrong leave them alone.
Precisely; their past activities already have drawn a lot of eyes to watch if they step out of line. Reconciliation should always remain the preferred option, and some semblance of that option should always be available. Some pachycephalosaurs need more opportunities than others to bang their heads into stone walls. Strict bans for long periods of time take away their opportunities to correct their wrongs.
Ec
On 29/02/2008, Christiano Moreschi moreschiwikiman@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
One relatively brief day of adminning enwiki and I find myself blocking the sockpuppets of no fewer than three separate returning banned users. Hkelkar, Ararat arev, and BryanFromPalatine, if anyone's interested. Is this a normal experience for my fellow admins?
Yes.
And do we do enough to keep banned users off Wikipedia? Should we chase them up in real life a little more? After all, I believe we do know who at least two out of the above three are. Wikipedia is hardly sinking under a deluge of banned users, but a little more proactiveness would be nice on this front.
Notifying ISPs or universities or whatever has tended to be something done only in extreme cases. Considering the (how do I put this) unstoppable robotic enthusiasm some of our admins put in, I'd consider it unsafe as a general practice.
Is protecting articles from a specific user or IP range technically possible?
Not as yet. Want to write the code?
- d.
Impossible even in theory?
CM> > Is protecting articles from a specific user or IP range technically possible?> > > Not as yet. Want to write the code?> > > - d.> > _______________________________________________> WikiEN-l mailing list> WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml
On 29/02/2008, Christiano Moreschi moreschiwikiman@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
CM> > Is protecting articles from a specific user or IP range technically possible?
Not as yet. Want to write the code?
Impossible even in theory?
I don't think it would be impossible in theory. But I'm pretty sure there's nothing in MediaWiki to do it as yet.
- d.
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Christiano Moreschi < moreschiwikiman@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
One relatively brief day of adminning enwiki and I find myself blocking the sockpuppets of no fewer than three separate returning banned users. Hkelkar, Ararat arev, and BryanFromPalatine, if anyone's interested. Is this a normal experience for my fellow admins?
And do we do enough to keep banned users off Wikipedia? Should we chase them up in real life a little more? After all, I believe we do know who at least two out of the above three are. Wikipedia is hardly sinking under a deluge of banned users, but a little more proactiveness would be nice on this front. Is protecting articles from a specific user or IP range technically possible?
Chasing them in real life? Are you joking? As long as the most serious threat they pose to our existence is annoying admins who have to block them once in a while, I hardly think vigilante action is warranted.
Johnleemk