It seems pretty well done, George. I took the liberty of highlighting what I think one of the key points regarding not trying to figure out if it is a hoax. The police, as a rule, want to hear of this, and we should err on the side of protecting human life.
--Avi
On 10/10/2007, Avi avi.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
It seems pretty well done, George. I took the liberty of highlighting what I think one of the key points regarding not trying to figure out if it is a hoax. The police, as a rule, want to hear of this
...and the positive outcome to "silly kid posts hoax suicide note on the internet" is "silly kid gets terrified by large scary policemen and decides not to do it again". Even in the case of a probable hoax - at least, one not a de-facto obvious joke, though god knows how some of our more myopic users could recognise one - passing it through channels is probably valid.
On 10/10/2007, Andrew Gray shimgray@gmail.com wrote:
...and the positive outcome to "silly kid posts hoax suicide note on the internet" is "silly kid gets terrified by large scary policemen and decides not to do it again".
Even better- if people generally know what happens when they do hoaxes, then they're less likely to do posts for 'humor' reasons; so it pays to advertise the policy somewhat.
Even in the case of a probable hoax -
at least, one not a de-facto obvious joke, though god knows how some of our more myopic users could recognise one - passing it through channels is probably valid.
I think so too.
I think this essay totally nails it. Should we #redirect to this essay from WP:SUICIDE?
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- Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk
Already done, I believe.
--Avi
Yes, I made the redirect right after I created the essay.
-george
On 10/10/07, Avi avi.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Already done, I believe.
--Avi
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On 10/10/07, Ian Woollard ian.woollard@gmail.com wrote:
I think this essay totally nails it. Should we #redirect to this essay from WP:SUICIDE? -- -Ian Woollard
We live in an imperfectly imperfect world. If we lived in a perfectly imperfect world things would be a lot better.
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On 10/10/07, Ian Woollard ian.woollard@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/10/2007, Andrew Gray shimgray@gmail.com wrote:
...and the positive outcome to "silly kid posts hoax suicide note on the internet" is "silly kid gets terrified by large scary policemen and decides not to do it again".
Even better- if people generally know what happens when they do hoaxes, then they're less likely to do posts for 'humor' reasons; so it pays to advertise the policy somewhat.
I'd say they're more likely to do hoaxes for "humor" reasons and use someone else's name and address.
Even in the case of a probable hoax -
at least, one not a de-facto obvious joke, though god knows how some of our more myopic users could recognise one - passing it through channels is probably valid.
I think so too.
So what about someone who writes what is probably a fictional murder story, but might actually be a confession? Should the police be contacted in that instance? IIRC, the consensus here is that calling the police then constitutes cyberstalking.
So what about someone who writes what is probably a fictional murder story, but might actually be a confession? Should the police be contacted in that instance? IIRC, the consensus here is that calling the police then constitutes cyberstalking.
I don't see how contacting the police about something could be considered cyberstalking. If there is any significant doubt in your mind, then you should report it and let the authorities decide if it requires any action.
On 11/10/2007, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
So what about someone who writes what is probably a fictional murder story, but might actually be a confession? Should the police be contacted in that instance? IIRC, the consensus here is that calling the police then constitutes cyberstalking.
Well, yes. This is where we invoke the "don't be bloody stupid" rule.
(Also, in that case, it was not posted to Wikipedia, which would seem to be rather critical in determining it as not a public announcement we have to concern ourselves with...)