Thanks for the clarification of the words moving and copying. Tonight I will go to bed less stupider.
I'm not an admin, so I can't delete the item. If you'll look closely at my original post, an item moved to Wiktionary doesn't qualify as a candidate for speedy deletion, which would make its listing and deletion against policy. Last I checked, principles of physics weren't a reason to nominate an item for speedy deletion either. I appreciate your banter, but it's not really helping me.
The definition of "move" includes the fact that, once the movee is ''there'', it is no longer ''here''. (Cf. [[Pauli exclusion principle]], [[Buckaroo Banzai location principle]].)
If you were to add the articles to Wiktionary and not delete them from Wikipedia, you would not have ''moved'' them, you would have ''copied''
them.
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Olivier Bilodeau stated for the record:
Thanks for the clarification of the words moving and copying. Tonight I will go to bed less stupider.
I hope you haven't misunderstood me -- I was attempting to express support for you, not insult you.
I'm not an admin, so I can't delete the item. If you'll look closely at my original post, an item moved to Wiktionary doesn't qualify as a candidate for speedy deletion, which would make its listing and deletion against policy. Last I checked, principles of physics weren't a reason to nominate an item for speedy deletion either. I appreciate your banter, but it's not really helping me.
What I failed to communicate is that I don't think deletion policies apply. The articles in question are already listed for moving; I think that moving them doesn't involve the deletion process, speedy or otherwise.
I just want to be sure that once the entry exists on Wiktionary and I add {{delete}} that I won't be told that I'm bypassing the VfD process or that my csd doesn't fit the established criteria, or worse, that the admin who actually deletes the items gets accused of the above. I was a bit sarcastic in my reply to your post, but I wanted your opinion on the matter to be clarified (which you did, and I appreciate).
What I failed to communicate is that I don't think deletion policies apply. The articles in question are already listed for moving; I think
that moving them doesn't involve the deletion process, speedy or
otherwise.
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I think there is a {{deletebecause}}. Check [[Template:Deletebecause]] to see if there are any template parameters.
TBSDY
Olivier Bilodeau wrote:
I just want to be sure that once the entry exists on Wiktionary and I add {{delete}} that I won't be told that I'm bypassing the VfD process or that my csd doesn't fit the established criteria, or worse, that the admin who actually deletes the items gets accused of the above. I was a bit sarcastic in my reply to your post, but I wanted your opinion on the matter to be clarified (which you did, and I appreciate).
What I failed to communicate is that I don't think deletion policies apply. The articles in question are already listed for moving; I think
that moving them doesn't involve the deletion process, speedy or
otherwise.
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Sean Barrett said:
What I failed to communicate is that I don't think deletion policies apply. The articles in question are already listed for moving; I think that moving them doesn't involve the deletion process, speedy or otherwise.
The problem is that as far as I'm aware there is no single consensual process for deciding to move to wiktionary. The items in that category are just those that someone or other has edited to add the mtw template. So we can't just delete the item there and then, unless the move to wiktionary was decided as a result of discussion on WP:RM, WP:VFD or WP:CSD.