Fred Bauder wirtes:
To crab up and fall into a negative posture is simply rude beyond words. In the case of Wikipedia articles I can't imagine a more productive situation than a free-flowing and respectful relationship with the fluent English speaker sometimes editing a bit for syntax and the native Chinese speaker grounding material in Chinese reality. It's always worth the trouble.
Um, I am totally confused. Why are you rebutting a position that no one has? I certainly never offered a position anything like the one Fred is imagining. In fact, I totally agree with everything Fred has written here. I think it is *wonderful* that an English speaker would work with someone to help improve an article.
I just don't like it when someone with poor English skills is rude to English speakers, and insist on adding material and phrasings that are vague, incomprehensible, mistaken, or using non-standard definitions of words that no other English speakers use.
Is the difference between these two cases clear now?
Sheesh,
Robert (RK)
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Robert wroites: Um, I am totally confused.
That much is certain.
I just don't like it when someone with poor English skills is rude to English speakers, and insist on adding material and phrasings that are vague, incomprehensible, mistaken, or using non-standard definitions of words that no other English speakers use. Is the difference between these two cases clear now?
Yes, the difference is clear, and those of us who jumped on the gun about the have admitted our mistake in misunderstanding the problem. In the future, it would be helpful if one (in this case, James - and afterward Robert) phrases the problem in the correct way: "Im having an EDIT WAR with so and so, and he's under some misconceptions about several things. His English is also poor. I'd like some help."
Thats it! Nes pa?
I admit to having complicated matters by introducing my pet theories of phonetic English (someday...) etc. At least YoungDan seemed interested.
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